Dear Ant Time is not something you have. Time is what you take yourself.
:-) J-A > 28 maj 2020 kl. 05:03 skrev Ant McWatt <[email protected]>: > > As I implied before Jan-Anders, you're asking the wrong person about this > issue! Though, as you stated, I agree that 'MOQ & Time' paper would be a > good starting point for discussion. > > I'll tell you what, presuming Horse is OK with this, if someone reading this > downloaded (and saved) the original webpage from robertpirsig.org (when it > was properly operational pre-2015) maybe they could be kind enough to paste > the text of the paper in a post here. At least everyone subscribing to MOQ > Discuss could read what we're talking about. in fact, Horse can publish it > properly at his website; that is if he wants to and (forgive the pun) has > the... time! 😉 > > Kind regards, > > Ant > > ________________________________ > From: Moq_Discuss <[email protected]> on behalf of Jan > Andersson <[email protected]> > Sent: 27 May 2020 17:02 > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MD] Future of MOQ > > Ant > > Yes I’ve got them since long. I thought that if it was available for all it > could be a good material to start off from where everyone could take part. > > J-A > >> 27 maj 2020 x kl. 00:16 skrev Ant McWatt <[email protected]>: >> >> Jan-Anders, >> >> Here's a link to that 1999 paper you mentioned by ERIC PRIEZKALNS and myself: >> >> http://www.quantonics.com/Anthony_McWatts_MoQ_Paper.html >> >> Otherwise, as I said previously, the 'MOQ & Time' paper (more or less >> anyway) can be found in the appendix of the 'Pirisg PhD PDF' from 2011. If >> you want a copy let me know off-line! However, don't you have a copyof this >> at hand anyway? >> >> Sadly, it's other people who are/have been 'blocking' full access to >> robertpirsig.org; (such as Will Heasman & Ian Glendinning - the previous & >> present website 'hosts'/'IT administrators') over the last three to four >> years... Like you I just want to get on with updating robertpirsig.org and >> 'taking the MOQ further' but there's little I can do about it for now if >> they're respectively having a breakdown/break-up or simply too busy/looking >> after elderlty parents or whatever the latest excuse it is... There's an >> old phrase: 'If you want something done well, do it yourself'!!! 😉 >> >> Kind regards all anyway, >> >> P.S. Nowadays, I think of this song when thinking of people like Will & Ian >> (and a few other 'choice' people - some a lot worse than those two btw - >> I've had the misfortune to encounter in 'The World of the MOQ' over the >> years): >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV4mg9DMn7k >> [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.TGqiieqmF_eGfogZL0G62wHgFo&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV4mg9DMn7k> >> 'The Ballad Of John And Yoko' By The Beatles (Cover By Amy >> Slattery)<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV4mg9DMn7k> >> Hope you enjoy this one! :) >> www.youtube.com<http://www.youtube.com> >> >> >> www.robertpirsig.org<http://www.robertpirsig.org/<http://www.robertpirsig.org<http://www.robertpirsig.org/>> >> Robert M Pirsig - Anthony McWatt's Pirsig/MoQ >> Website<http://www.robertpirsig.org/> >> ABOUT: Created to support the promotion of and engagement in the life, >> literary and philosophical works of Robert Pirsig. · Status July 2019 – >> under new registration and hosting arrangements @ Dreamhost.com (Old >> resources of robertpirsig.org and pirsig.org partially recovered from web >> archive and awaiting republication.)· For all content & technical queries – >> [email protected] >> www.robertpirsig.org<http://www.robertpirsig.org> >> ________________________________ >> >> [MD] Future of MOQ >> Jan Andersson jananderses at telia.com >> Sat May 23 05:20:43 PDT 2020 >> >> >> All >> >> After these mourning years my mind's a bit rusty. I forgot to also mention >> the essay The Role of Evolution, Time and Order in Robert Pirsig’s >> "Metaphysics of Quality” by ANTHONY MCWATT of Liverpool University, & ERIC >> PRIEZKALNS with Responses by ROBERT M. PIRSIG JANUARY 1999 >> >> If Ant will give acess to the audience of this, and -The MOQ and Time-, I >> think that it will be a good start for a constructive discussion here. If >> they, by chance, is considered obsolete, what will there be else to start >> from? >> >> My own book about Money (Time is..? :-) isn’t mentioned anywhere and with >> it's massive lack of response I think you can leave that.. excerpt one >> little quotation in it from Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan ch XIII: >> --- For such is the nature of men, that howsoever they may acknowledge many >> others to be more witty, or more eloquent, or more learned; >> Yet they will hardly believe there be many so wise as themselves: For they >> see their own wit at hand, and other mens at a distance. --- >> >> During the years we have been talking around so many aspects on MOQ and >> Metaphysics. Thousands of intense threads about SOM vs MOQ and so on. >> >> Now it is time to look further. The Corona crisis is pointing at some >> interesting aspects. >> There are 4 layers in the MOQ perspective of the evolution. Viruses and >> political issues housed at different levels. One applicable issue to point >> at the MOQ-perspective could be like this: Why is it impossible to argue >> with a virus? >> >> – >> >> Without time there will be no future. >> >> Jan-Anders > > > [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free. > www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
