I see that the year is right but it is some 8 months old. I'm one of those early members you never offered much.
I discovered recently that "Dynamic Quality" has a rational definition. M.T.™ On Sat, May 23, 2020, 9:26 AM Adrie Kintziger <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes he does own a small lathe,although we do not need it very often,we use > it to sand round parts and also do drill precision holes > that need work on the inside,but basically , if we need something of high > precision, we simply order it in China, as they have very good services for > turning work-on demand , and cheap as pak. > But a lathe is a bit like a motorcycle for many people, it is the last > thing to purchase and the first thing to kick out. > > My son resides and works in Dublin now , Anthony; he develops apps for > Linkedin, which is a daughter of Microsoft, and he is very happy there, > very good company with magnificent amenities (lol),a perfect on-demand > restaurant that would fit a 5 star hotel, coffeebars, massages at one's > desk on demand (!) > and a salary that would make most people doubt themselves.......the only > minor point is the rent for a small apartment in central Dublin , in the > old branches of the port > that stretches into the town,located on the water, on pole's and concrete > slabs.The high rise is on that slabs, the water flows underneath the > apartment; which is very nice!! > (2200) euro/month!, but if one compares it to what he makes.... > The apartment he has here,and that is only 2 years old , in Gent,is used > for airb&b guests now, altough most bookings now have stalled completely; > we had many guests from > America,and also many from England and Germany. > > Because of all the above, we were lucky to be able to visit him in Dublin, > and we made very nice trips into the hills and countryside, along Bono's > house, and to Howt near Dublin proper itself , > but also to the lake's that are fed by water filtered over peat,which gives > it a brownish appearance. Magnificent lakes, great forests,not many > tourists, and if there are, friendly. > It was near Blessington, next to the Wicklow mountains. > This is not like France....!-after that we went to Buckley fx to have the > famous ribeye steaks and some German beer and a Laproigh(?) whiskey or > two?;marvellous, but the bill was rather hefty. > I have to say Anthony , you have a magnificent country.I was lucky to > visit, and most certainly i will go back.Maybe for a month or so. > > I sincerely hope The north of Ireland will blend in again,altough the > troubles are not forgotten,and they still have a biting reflex. > > Talking about the Eu; it looks obvious by now that we will hit the no-deal > . > Adrie > > > > > > > Op vr 22 mei 2020 om 14:14 schreef Ant McWatt <[email protected]>: > > > 'As an Englishman, i think you have a slight idea about the prices eh?,' > > > > LOL there Adrie, you'd think the now largely defunct BRITISH EMPIRE was a > > mercenary organization! You still see the public (read 'private') school > > chums & their MPs thinking that the old Empire will magically appear when > > or if the UK leaves EU. (Anyway, it will be only England & Wales)... the > > Scottish will be back in the EU as soon as they have given the classic > > two-fingered salute to the WESTMINISTER/ENGLISH parliament later this > > decade and I have a feeling Northern Ireland will even 'get back' with > the > > rest of Irish Republic within the next decade. > > > > BTW, below is a video of the typical English 'public school graduate', it > > just gives the wider world an indication of what the average 'Englishman > in > > the street' has to deal with when these retards go into government... > talk > > about black comedy: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC0IJQ_s7No > > > > More seriously, it sounds like your brother has quite a well equipped > > engineering workshop to say the least but does he have a lathe? About 18 > > years ago Robert Pirsig sent me an email announcing the arrival of his > new > > lathe for his workshop. He was really excited about it because he could > > start making his own 'homemade' tools for himself as well as another > lathe > > if he had desired doing so. > > > > Finally, being a rather fast driver (I nearly became a rally driver many, > > many years ago) and someone appreciating old-fashioned luxury, I do like > > my 1960s-90s British classic cars (especially Jaguars and Rover V8s). > > Again, like older motrcycles/bikes most of the models in question would > run > > better on leaded petrol but I'm afraid those days are long, long gone in > > the UK. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Ant > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MWvgOjebo > > [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.VvRKbYgY_7gkNGeNEnHm_gEsDh&pid=Api]< > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MWvgOjebo> > > What’s the Greatest Machine of the 1960s…the Jaguar E-Type?< > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MWvgOjebo> > > THE JAGUAR E-TYPE (1961) The Jaguar E-Type is a British sports car, which > > was manufactured by Jaguar Cars Ltd between 1961 and 1975. Its > combination > > of beauty, high performance, and competitive pricing established the > marque > > as an icon of 1960s motoring. At a time when most cars had drum brakes, > > live rear axles, and mediocre performance, the E ... > > www.youtube.com > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Moq_Discuss <[email protected]> on behalf of > > Adrie Kintziger <[email protected]> > > Sent: 19 May 2020 20:09 > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends > > > > Yes , indeed , my brother owns the place, and all the machines in it,we > can > > weld,grind, turn, saw , whatever-, we even have an > > electrical oven to bake some parts, and a sandblaster. I'm still on the > > scouting for a nice CB 77 or a Yamaha rd 350 lc blue/white,only a matter > of > > time > > that i will have one,and restore it to a showroomcondition. > > As an Englishman, i think you have a slight idea about the prices eh?,to > > give you an idea. A new electronic ignition and condensers,along with the > > infrared pick-up elements for the TX 500 Yam,=200 euro, > > a simple camchain joint link, 1 (one)= 70 euro,..a camchain without the > > joint, 184 euro, a gasket set covering all carters/cranck/cases, the > heads > > and the oilchannels =210 euro; a kit to get a refit for the oilfilter to > > make it adapt to modern ones > > =75 euro,(the old oilfilters are absent, the new have another threading) > , > > anyway these are the cheap parts. A crankshaft = 2000 euro, a camshaft > 800 > > but you need two. We payed 500 euro for the valves and seats only. > > > > And we have others issue's as well. > > Modern fuel contains alcohol and lacks lead. The old bikes need lead and > > pure fuel.Almost impossible to get. > > It is also very difficult to import a motor and have it approved > > legally,and it is expensive. > > If a bike has been in a shed for say 40 years,all document for it become > > valueless. > > But we like to get our nose in a jerrycan. > > > > Adrie > > > > > > Op di 19 mei 2020 om 12:47 schreef Ant McWatt <[email protected]>: > > > > > Sounds a very good way to go, Adrie, in these 'times of trouble' with > the > > > motorcycles/bikes and outboard boat engines. Bet your brother and > your > > > good self are glad that you have that man-cave to work in! It's also > > nice > > > to hear in this 'age of consumerism' that you are both doing good deals > > on > > > these (sensibly engine-sized) motorbikes/cycles. I know where I'm > going > > to > > > order my next 'bike' from!!! > > > > > > Yours, thinking ahead (slightly Dynamically), > > > > > > Ant > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Moq_Discuss <[email protected]> on behalf of > > > Adrie Kintziger <[email protected]> > > > Sent: 17 May 2020 19:17 > > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends > > > > > > The country is Belgium , but my mother was Dutch, and i live on 1 mile > of > > > the Dutch border. > > > I'm currently working on a TX 500 Yamaha , Ant,i have a little > > > mancave -garage with my brother and we have 3 > > > bikes on the table right now,i bought a lot of nos parts for the > > > Yamaha,still in the box tough,..he's not in a hurry ,as he is from 76. > > > The other is a gsx 55O Suzi, and one Kawa 498 ltd.I do the engines and > > the > > > elektricity, my brother paint frame and chrome. > > > If we sell a bike , mostly it is break even,or we make some bucks not > > worth > > > the effort,but we have some Belgian beer to comfort us. > > > We also restore old outboard engines, Ducati, Evinrude, Honda, > two-stroke > > > and 4 stroke , longtail/shorttail name it , its there, and the > surprise- > > > they sell like candy,and they make very good money. > > > > > > > > > Op zo 17 mei 2020 om 20:44 schreef Ant McWatt <[email protected] > >: > > > > > > > I completely understand Adrie. The shortage of fresh, clean water > for > > > ALL > > > > of this world's population is almost certainly more critical than > > dealing > > > > with this Corona virus which, of course, could have been handled a > lot > > > > better and more quickly in so many countries. So, as such, I'm so > glad > > > to > > > > see the speed camera money in your country (the Netherlands?) going > to > > > > politicians and tax breaks rather than protective clothing for > > > 'front-line' > > > > workers... BTW, anyone around here got any money to pay for my new > > > > Ferrari's petrol bill? Running five classic cars & two motorcycles > in > > > this > > > > day & age is getting a little difficult (though it was a big, big > > relief > > > to > > > > see the oil prices drop like a stone recently)! > > > > > > > > Well, I suppose the world's human population has realised some > > > fundamental > > > > East Asian philosophy truths with this virus - the penny's finally > > > dropping > > > > that we're all connected in more ways than one. You could also add > the > > > > issue of climate change; for example, every piece of litter you leave > > on > > > > the street, any water or food you waste, any trip you take in your > > > Ferrari > > > > (or whatever vehicle 'turns you on') affects EVERYONE and all > > biological > > > > patterns on this planet, sooner or later. It's a hard lesson, a very > > > hard > > > > lesson for some, but better to happen now while human beings still > > have a > > > > chance to protect the intellectual & social patterns on this planet. > > The > > > > MOQ is great in it's own way but how many people understand it and > > apply > > > > it? I can preach all I like but the preaching is, at best, only going > > to > > > > 'reach' a few thousand people. My 'guitar' still gently weeps... > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6Lzc > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally, loved that last sentence of yours: > > > > > > > > 'It's a burlesque theatre; with drunken clowns on stage.' > > > > > > > > Could have been written by Oscar Wilde IMHO... > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > Ant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Moq_Discuss <[email protected]> on behalf > of > > > > Adrie Kintziger <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: 17 May 2020 16:34 > > > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends > > > > > > > > People do not like critical issues i suppose.Although i'm not a > > doomsday > > > > prepper or a stand up Nostradamus > > > > that is handing out predictions or possible disasters i am convinced > > that > > > > the climate is changing very rapidly,the water is > > > > not in the possibility to replenish itself anymore and there is no > > food > > > on > > > > the planet for all of us. > > > > Some countries are gearing up for war,and some economy's are so debt > > > > infested that in fact, a war would be the only way out,... > > > > How far are we away from patterns like say the Weimar republique? > > > > Printing money all the time bled out Europe, America,Russia,and only > > > China > > > > seems to have some cash left,to invest in Africa... > > > > thoughts?.... roll out-- > > > > > > > > I was thinking about the idiots you mentioned , Anthony, as we also > > have > > > a > > > > bunch of them,the only thing they succeeded to arrange > > > > are speed controls,traject controls,parking fines, you name it , some > > > > cameras here rake in 300 000 Euro a month , one of them > > > > takes it a week.....but all that money was not enough to buy some > > > > protective material for the population. > > > > Still , they like to take the stand,and lecture others,preferably on > an > > > > international platform like the European parliament, to inform them > how > > > > wrong they are. > > > > Its a burlesque theather; with drunken clowns on stage. > > > > > > > > Adrie > > > > > > > > > > > > Op zo 17 mei 2020 om 05:42 schreef Ant McWatt < > [email protected] > > >: > > > > > > > > > Interesting times, hey? > > > > > > > > > > As Bill Hicks would say 'It times like this, you see people's (and > > > > > co(u)ntries) genuine colo(u)rs!' Heh, heh, heh... > > > > > > > > > > Fortunately, where I live there's no known Corona Virus infections > > but > > > I > > > > > look around the world and can see quite a difference of Quality in > > how > > > > this > > > > > relatively minor infection (if it had seen off a billion people by > > this > > > > > stage - I'd be concerned - it's no where near that...) has been > > > regarded > > > > & > > > > > treated. > > > > > > > > > > I wonder which co(u)ntries have had the best policies to deal wirh > > it? > > > > > South Korea? New Zealand? Sweden? What's YOUR opinon in this > > > regard? > > > > > I know it isn't the US let alone the UK. In fact it's laughable > > here > > > - > > > > we > > > > > have some clown in southern England called 'Mr Johnson' thinking > > he's a > > > > > prime minister and who got the virus! LOL! That made my year (or > at > > > > least > > > > > a month) comedy-wise. I love looking at his latest videos now - > witb > > > the > > > > > sound off and listening to a certain song by RAGE AGAINST THE > MACHINE > > > > (I'll > > > > > give you a hint it begins with FU). More seriously, I wish people > > > like > > > > > him & Trump would just go away and retire on Richard Branson's > > > island... > > > > > think what Mark Twain said about people wanting to become > leaders?!! > > > > > (Never mind, I had to deal with Punk in the 1970s and the new > > > Romantics > > > > > plus the SMITHS & Thatcher in the 1980s so it has been worse). > > > > > > > > > > I leave a final thought for you to ponder... is all this Corona-19 > > > > > infection media blitz simply deflecting the (so-called) general > > public > > > > from > > > > > more critical issues? > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards to all; sleep tight, > > > > > > > > > > Ant > > > > > > > > > > P.S. Hope you enjoyed your European travels Krimel. Sorry you felt > > > Horse > > > > > & me had betrayed you by revealing your 'real' name. But 'get > real', > > > do > > > > > you think anyone is THAT interested? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Moq_Discuss <[email protected]> on > behalf > > of > > > > > Jan-Anders Andersson <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: 25 April 2020 20:35 > > > > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone of you MOQers > > > > > > > > > > Great that this line is still open! > > > > > > > > > > I am well, playing my accordion and working on the sequel of Money > > and > > > > the > > > > > Art... > > > > > > > > > > best wishes to > > > > > you all > > > > > > > > > > > 25 apr. 2020 kl. 21:42 skrev Dan Glover <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello old friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > A couple years ago I sold everything, gave away what I couldn't > > sell, > > > > and > > > > > > moved from Chicago to Florida. I bought a shack perched > > precariously > > > > > close > > > > > > to a canal in the swamps just outside Satsuma where I spend my > days > > > > > sitting > > > > > > in the sunshine reading and taking photos of gators, otters, and > > blue > > > > > > herons. I was delighted the other day to see a reference to Zen > and > > > the > > > > > Art > > > > > > of Motorcycle Maintenance in Quichotte (pronounced Key-Shot) by > > > Salman > > > > > > Rushdie but then again Rushdie seems to read everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am no longer writing as much as I did up north. I think part of > > > that > > > > > has > > > > > > to do with how it is sunny and warm and pleasant here even in > > > December > > > > > and > > > > > > January and February whereas in Chicago the weather was intent on > > > > killing > > > > > > me six months out of the year. I also like to think what I do > write > > > now > > > > > has > > > > > > more quality than the torrent of words I once produced though in > > > that I > > > > > am > > > > > > most likely fooling myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also exercising quite a lot these days: walking, biking, > > > running, > > > > > > swimming. I daily take a chug from the fountain of youth and > dammit > > > if > > > > it > > > > > > doesn't seem to be working. Listening to lots of music both new > and > > > > old, > > > > > > catch myself cranking up the volume. Miles Davis seems > particularly > > > > > apropos > > > > > > to these long and sunny Florida afternoons. > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is good. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > A rip tide is raging > > > > > > And the life guard is away > > > > > > But the ocean doesn't want me today > > > > > > The ocean doesn't want me today > > > > > > (Tom Waits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 2:11 PM Adrie Kintziger < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi Matt , and Krimel,and probably more of the usual suspects.. > ,in > > > the > > > > > >> run-up to my retirement and my daughter buying a house that i > had > > to > > > > do > > > > > up > > > > > >> myself (3 yrs work), > > > > > >> i halted my postings to the list.After some time it went > > > > > silent.Probably i > > > > > >> was peeled out of the onion. Since then, i never checked > anymore, > > > nor > > > > > did i > > > > > >> hear anything. > > > > > >> So you are the first ,Matt. > > > > > >> I still read many books.I fish extensively.Still riding my > bicycle > > > > > daily, > > > > > >> do about 12000 miles a year.I have the bulk of time now. > > > > > >> But its difficult to ride my normal tracks under lockdown and > with > > > the > > > > > >> Dutch borders closed up-normally i always ride in the > Netherlands, > > > but > > > > > have > > > > > >> to stay in Belgium nowadays. > > > > > >> We cannot fish in the canal under the lockdown,and they are > > > patrolling > > > > > the > > > > > >> little forest we have there , so the only thing we can do for > now > > is > > > > > >> cleaning , pruning the trees and > > > > > >> just sit over there , on some distance from each other. Its our > > > > personal > > > > > >> tranquility base , so we have to guard it. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I do not know where you live Matt, and Krimel,i hope its a > > location > > > > that > > > > > >> allows you to weather this viral storms ... > > > > > >> Missed you all, Krimel included. > > > > > >> Adrie > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Op za 25 apr. 2020 om 19:36 schreef Scribe <[email protected] > >: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Hi Matt, > > > > > >>> Good to hear from you. I too have reflected on the old day on > the > > > > MoQ. > > > > > In > > > > > >>> my > > > > > >>> memory they take shape as Good old days in a way few reflection > > on > > > > the > > > > > >> past > > > > > >>> do these days. > > > > > >>> I left the MoQ after Horse and Ant threaten to reveal my true > > name, > > > > > >> which I > > > > > >>> thought was a betrayal of trust. I went to graduate school in > > > > > >> communication > > > > > >>> but dropped out after a six years as an ABD with a master's, > > mostly > > > > > >> because > > > > > >>> I got a full time teaching gig. I mostly taught Psychology but > > also > > > > > >> classes > > > > > >>> in Communication and Philosophy. I retired last year and spent > > > couple > > > > > of > > > > > >>> months in Europe riding trains with my wife. We had similar > plans > > > > this > > > > > >> year > > > > > >>> but they have been delayed... > > > > > >>> There is a serious irony for me with respect to the MoQ. When I > > > > entered > > > > > >>> graduate school, I was averaging four or five page of writing a > > day > > > > for > > > > > >> the > > > > > >>> community. Graduate school gave me writer's block. It was too > > > > focused, > > > > > >> too > > > > > >>> controlled, it had to be done. Don't get me wrong I wrote a lot > > for > > > > > >>> graduate > > > > > >>> school but it was not for fun and other than being an asshole > on > > > > > >> Facebook I > > > > > >>> don't do it much these days. > > > > > >>> Anyway, love me or hate me I miss all of you, well most of you, > > > > > fiercely. > > > > > >>> Krimel > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>> From: Moq_Discuss <[email protected]> On > > > Behalf > > > > Of > > > > > >>> Matt > > > > > >>> Kundert > > > > > >>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 11:41 AM > > > > > >>> To: [email protected] > > > > > >>> Subject: [MD] Best Wishes to All of My Old Friends > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Hi Everyone, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> It's been three years since I've checked this email and five > > since > > > I > > > > > >> wrote > > > > > >>> to the listserve. I was just talking to a friend, outside, 8 > > feet > > > > > away, > > > > > >> on > > > > > >>> a fold-out chair I brought with me, and she brought up ZMM. We > > > > > chatted a > > > > > >>> little while about it, and am going to give her one of the many > > > > copies > > > > > I > > > > > >>> still have squirreled away. I haven't read it since I taught > it > > in > > > > > 2014, > > > > > >>> but I still think it is one of the most remarkably structured > > > books. > > > > > >> I've > > > > > >>> been teaching "close reading" for over 10 years now, and its > > > > > >> responsiveness > > > > > >>> is a sign of its enduring quality of thought and feeling. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> But that's just, maybe, the required nostalgic overture. The > > real > > > > > >>> nostalgia > > > > > >>> I wanted to toss into this still pool was a Hello to any of my > > old > > > > > >> friends > > > > > >>> and interlocutors who still receive these emails. I still feel > > > that > > > > my > > > > > >>> participation many years ago was integral to my intellectual > and > > > > > >> stylistic > > > > > >>> growth. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I hope everyone is well. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Best, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Matt > > > > > >>> Former Apostate > > > > > >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > >>> Archives: > > > > > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > >>> Archives: > > > > > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> parser > > > > > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > >> Archives: > > > > > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > http://www.danglover.com > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > > Archives: > > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > Archives: > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > Archives: > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > parser > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > Archives: > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > Archives: > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > parser > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > -- > > parser > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > -- > parser > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
