Greetings,

Thanks for your answer Roger. I'm afraid that I tend to fall by the wayside when 
anyone suggests
that all is good, it seems to defeat the point of the term good. As Pirsig didn't say, 
"Saying
everything is good reduces to saying that everything is everything, which says 
nothing." If all is
good, then we might as well strike the word 'good' from the dictionary and have done 
with it. But I
have to confess that I didn't quite understand how your 'recap' actually recapped what 
you said. I
think I'm the one who is confused. Any chance of 'rational Roger' doing a recap as 
well? I might
have more chance.

Sorry not to have any deeper insight than that. (Whoever it was who said, "If I had 
more time I
would make my answer shorter," deserves a knighthood)

Roger wrote:
"PS - Am I the only one that sees the political/economic/racial discussions as
people talking past each other and nobody listening? Oh well...... I suppose
just talking does us good too. Today I think I will reject a static pattern
that I identify with myself and seek something new....... wish me well."

I think we all see that Roger. I feel that bigoted racism has to be refuted at every 
opportunity,
lest it spread and infect others. The point is not to persuade the perpetrator,  but 
to make sure
that others are not hoodwinked by phoney science and backward thinking. I personally 
think that it
is everyone's duty to stand up to the crap we have recently seen on this forum and I 
couldn't give a
stuff what the perpetrators or their cronies make of it. They are not my audience and 
I am not
theirs.

Struan

P.S. David T: Des'cart'es certainly came before de'Horse' I have empirical evidence - 
bit convoluted
but the best I can do. :-)

P.P.S Platt, I suspect that Mr Leg would have the very good sense not to sign up in 
the first place.
I certainly wouldn't. :-)
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Struan Hellier
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"All our best activities involve desires which are disciplined and
purified in the process."
(Iris Murdoch)



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