Greetings,

**********PART 1**********


     A major flaw in any metaphysical system is the limitation of 
linguistics to express the ideas which are being discussed, no matter what 
brand of metaphysics it is, whether it be the classical subject-object 
variety, or that new fangled metaphysics of quality.  This limitation was 
established long ago.

     -A comprehended god(Quality) is no god(Quality)-
                              Dio Chrysostom, Greek Sophist

     -The more concrete and positive in speaking about God(Quality), the 
lower the level of understanding-
                              Kierkengaard

     -In practice we are all bewitched by words.  We confuse them with the 
real world, and try to live in the real world as if it were a world of 
words-
                              Alan Watts

     -The concept, the label, is perpetually hiding us from the nature of 
the real-
                              Joseph Conrad

     -All things in their fundamental nature are not namable or explicable.  
They cannot be adequately expressed in any form of language-
                              Ashraghasa

     -He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know-
                              Lao Tzu

     -My suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, 
but queerer than we can suppose-
                              J.B.S. Haldane

     -We are too weak to discover the truth by reason alone-
                              St. Augustine

     -Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent-
                              Wittgenstein

     -The limits of my language stand as the limits of my world-
                              Wittgenstein

     -Human reasoning is burdened by questions which as prescribed by the 
very nature of reason itself, it is not able to ignore, but at the same time 
it is also not able to answer-
                              Kant

     -The gods love the obvious and hate the obscure-
                              The Upanishads

     -To understand is almost the exact opposite of existing-
                              Georges Poulet

     -Words, as it is well known, are great foes of reality-
                              Joseph Conrad

     -Human speech is like a cracked kettle on which we tap crude rhythms 
for bears to dance to while we long to make music that will melt the stars-
                              Gustave Faubert

     -Whatever a man knows, whatever is not mere rumbling and roaring that 
he has heard, can be said in three words-
                              Kurnberger

     -the no-mind not-thinks no-thoughts about no-things-
                              The Buddha


*****Pirsig himself realized this limitation on language*****

     -The Quality that can be defined is not the Absolute Quality-
                              Zen & Art of M.M. -chapter 20

     -It(Quality) cannot be defined-
                              Zen & Art of M.M. -chapter 20

     -Quality is indivisible, undefinable, and unknowable in the since  that 
there is a knower and a known... Since metaphysics is essentially a kind of 
dialectal definition and since Quality is essentially outside definition, 
then this means a "Metaphysics of Quality" is a contradiction of terms, a 
logical absurdity-
                              Lila  -chapter 5

*****Pirsig's justification to writing a metaphysics of Quality, though, was 
amazingly weak*****

     -The only person who does not pollute the mystic reality of this world 
with fixed metaphysics is a person who hasn't been born...  The rest of us 
have to settle for something a little less pure.  Getting drunk, picking up 
bar ladies, and writing metaphysics is a part of life-
                              Lila  -chapter 5

Allow me a slight rewrite to show my problems with this argument

     -The only person who does not pollute the physical reality of this 
world with excrament is a person who hasn't been born...  The rest of us 
have to settle for something a little less pure.  Getting drunk, picking up 
bar ladies, and creating excessive amounts of waste is a part of life-

Personally, I would not stand for it if AMCE chemical company used this 
excuse for physical pollution, nor will I stand for Pirsig's reasoning.  Zen 
and the Art of M.M. was enough, anything else is excessive and pollutive.

**********PART 2**********

Here is the problem...

Language is a tool of society used to convey societal qualities and values, 
just as urine and body language is used to convey biological qualities and 
values.  Without a language of some form; either speech, writing, sign 
language, Morse code, a society could not exist because only language is 
complex enough to adequately convey such social concepts as government, law, 
economics/trade, customs, ect...  This wonder of language is so important 
that we even taught ourselves to think words and language.  Don't be fooled, 
though:  Language is a social tool for communication and should be treated 
as such.  It is no better then conveying intellectual qualities than 
smelling a Germans urine will tell you about the entirety of their social 
qualities.  Language will only give you a shrouded glance of the 
intellectual qualities being presented. Words are just not suited to the 
challenge.  Perhaps someday in the future, if the intellect wins it's 
ongoing fight with society, Dynamic Quality will provide us with some new 
form of communication to work with intellectual Qualities, or maybe it 
already has, I don't know, but the Metaphysics of quality, which is still a 
logical absurdity, states that if language is a societal tool, then it would 
be immoral to try to express the intellectual qualities with a lower form of 
evolution, language.

Don't get caught up in the illusion.



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