Greetings, Dan, you started your last posting by stating that, "Being "an inquiry into morals," Pirsig's second book deals with morality as value, not morality as 'good' and 'bad'." then end it by saying, "Rather he proposes reality as Good, . . " The only way that makes sense is if you are re-introducing a schism between morality and reality, (fact and value), which is, as Horse once pointed out, profoundly un-MoQ and precisely the root cause of Phaedrus' journey and, it would seem, Pirsig's writing. But I for one would rather that, at this point, we addressed John's thoughts directly, thus I withdraw from this particular red herring. NOTE: I understand and agree with your point about shades of value rather than discrete good and bad - in the archives you will find thousands of words from myself on this very subject (e.g. Evil in the MoQ, Good is a Noun, etc.) all agreeing with that point. This is NOT the issue. Struan ------------------------------------------ Struan Hellier < mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "All our best activities involve desires which are disciplined and purified in the process." (Iris Murdoch) MOQ Online Homepage - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Unsubscribe - http://www.moq.org/md/index.html MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
