Greetings,

Cory, this evening I came home after a long, cold and wet motorcycle trip. As I walked 
through the
door, saw the whiskey bottle and had an idea that I would pour myself a large one and 
drink it. This
was a good idea . It was immediately recognised as good and needed no 
intellectualisation from me.
In fact the sense of good almost preceded the idea - a notion that I feel Pirsig would 
approve of.
Along with all good empiricist sceptics I do however agree with Dave's caveat upon 
trusting the
senses too much.

DLT, G.E Moore's 'naturalistic fallacy' has been the subject of some debate here and 
one or two have
claimed that the MoQ is indeed a form of naturalism. Whatever the merits of the 
argument (and I am
happy to get into it if you would proffer your own stance and back it up with the MoQ) 
 it doesn't
preclude a non-naturalistic definition, merely a naturalistic one. This does narrow 
the field
somewhat, but is not a great concern for the art of definition.

Popper I like very much, although his falsificationist position has been seriously 
undermined in
recent years by the realisation that theories cannot be conclusively falsified because 
the
observations that lead to such falsification  may, at some point in the future, 
themselves prove to
be false. He was convinced that each scientific discovery brings us one step closer to 
the 'truth.'
Most on this forum would reject that notion. Was Galileo more 'wrong' than Newton? 
Important is his
idea of approximation to the truth and I suppose one could construct a valid argument 
along those
lines, however, I think our search is more for the 'good;' not a very Popperian ideal 
methinks.

Struan
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Struan Hellier
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"All our best activities involve desires which are disciplined and
purified in the process."
(Iris Murdoch)



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