In a message dated 12/11/99 12:44:44 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Would it be too much to ask where you got the idea that helping 
 others “in need” throughout the world is high quality? From religion? 
 From teachers? From your feelings?
 
 I don’t find much in the MOQ to support your view that it’s immoral 
 to “sit back and enjoy life when so many people in the world are 
 suffering and dying.”
 
 In fact, doesn’t Pirsig’s solitary trip down the Hudson in a 
 comfortable yacht, thereby “choosing not to participate,” belie your 
 definition of “humanity’s biggest problem,” at least in MOQ terms?
 
 In light of Pirsig’s assertion that “If you eliminate suffering from the 
 world you eliminate life,” I’d be interested in your opinion of the 
 MOQ has a moral guide. It would seem that you and Pirsig are 
 deeply at odds. >>

Platt, I wish I could say that I totally understand the MOQ, but I don't. I'm 
not sure if anyone here totally understands it, otherwise we wouldn't see so 
much disagreement from many very intelligent people. I'm not sure where my 
idea comes from that helping others is high quality, but I doubt it comes 
from religion or teachers. 

Pirsig is no saint. He admits that picking up bar-women such as Lila is 
immoral, and if I remember correctly, he even said composing the MOQ itself 
was immoral. Pirsig is just as guilty as the next person when it comes to 
complacency. So am I. But recognizing our guilt is the first step, and many 
people have yet to do so.

So far no one here has presented a persuading argument as to why it is ok to 
sit back and enjoy life while so many others are suffering and dying. 

This whole thing started with my outrage at volunteers asking for donations 
to a high school baseball team. Not a single person, it seems, shares my 
outrage. A couple of people responded by saying essentially that baseball 
makes kids happy. 

Now I want to suggest that perhaps pursuit of happiness in this day and age 
is immoral. 

Lots of things make kids happy. Maybe our kids shouldn't be happy in this day 
and age. Maybe if we started telling them how terrible the world is, our kids 
would sober up. It might make them better adults. 

If a child spends his entire childhood pursuing happiness, chances are he'll 
continue to pursue happiness when he grows up. And there are too many happy 
adults in the world. 

Not many people have the guts to say happiness is a bad thing. But is it 
really good to be happy in a world full of death and suffering? Just about 
everybody would have a violent knee-jerk reaction if somebody told them they 
shouldn't be happy. But the truth is, we *shouldn't* be happy in today's 
world. At least, those who love humanity shouldn't be happy.

I'll never forget watching a made-for-TV movie many years ago about a little 
girl dying from cystic fibrosis. Towards the end of the movie, when the 
little girl was on her deathbed, she asked her father to go buy her some 
soda. The dad went to the supermarket and had to stand in line behind a very 
cheerful old woman who was carrying on a cheerful conversation with the 
cheerful cashier. The man stood there stoically, waiting for the two women to 
finish their cheerful chat so he could buy the soda and bring it home to his 
dying little girl. Later that day, she passed away.

I'll never forget that image, a man consumed by pain, standing behind two 
happy people who didn't give a shit.

There's lots of dying people in the world. Should we only care when it's a 
member of our family that is dying? Should we be oblivious to the pain of 
strangers? 

I think humans will look back with revulsion on this period of history. They 
will look back and say we put our happiness and our entertainment above 
helping others. All the people who currently say how great the world is, how 
great the state of humanity is, will be remembered as being profoundly wrong. 

And we in America, who had the potential to do the most good, did nothing but 
keep ourselves entertained. We made idols of movie stars and billionaires. We 
wasted time trying to implement change by passing ridiculous laws. Passing 
laws is not the way to change things. Change must come from within.

And our poor kids. Generation after generation we instill in them the belief 
that their ability to make money is more important than anything else. "You 
can start being a humanitarian after you've got a job making lots of money; 
and even then, you better put your job first. Everybody has to fend for 
themselves in this world, son." 

Some may think the alternative I suggest it overwhelmingly bleak. But if you 
think about it long enough, you will see that it is not bleak. It may *feel* 
bleak at first, especially to the kids. No more spending money on movies and 
baseball. No more ignoring the pain of others. 

Happiness would eventually return to the world. A more profound, more moral 
happiness than we now experience. Today's happiness is built on a foundation 
of death and suffering. We're all guilty. 

Maybe one day the average person will wake up and not think: "How am I going 
to entertain myself today?" but think instead: "Who's suffering am I going to 
alleviate today? Who's life am I going to help save?"

Would that be such a terrible world?

Jon












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