Jonathan, you scoundrel, you've forced me to cross post! But seriously, I thought this was a pretty good answer to your question. Since you've asked again, I thought I'd just bring it over here.... > -----Original Message----- > From: David Buchanan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:52 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: MF first things first > > > JM finds the teepee scene dull, saying "There's no detail, no > colour". And i guess that's just a matter of opinion. Personally, I wish > he'd gone into much more detail about havingg sex with Lila. I love the > dirty parts best. But seriously, JM says the bar scene is more exciting > and > "much more vivid" and calls it "Pirsig's other description of a > drug-related > ceremony". And here's where I start to have trouble.. > > You really can't compare beer with peyote. And normally I'd like to > give people a break on this because peyote use is pretty rare and most > folks > just don't know much about it. > But we're supposed to have read Lila before coming to this forum and > we just re-read the first three chapters, where the distinctions are so > clear and detailed. Even the details of the setting and atmosphere of > those > two contrasting chapters tell abou the differences... > > In the teepee he felt at home, felt connected to the people there, > felt he discovered his secret other half, he really loved the songs, > warmed > by the friendship and the fire and spun an intellectual web wider than > ever > before as his mind turned to complex realities and transcendental....where > something new opened up. > > At the bar he was motivated by biology, which doesn't care about how > loud, rude, tacky or fake she is. There's conflict with "that bitch > Debbie" > and the Victorian moralizer doesn't like it much either. The captain wakes > full of self-contempt and confusion. He has to scramble across a cold, > dark > and slippery deck just to get his clothes back on and light a fire. He has > to put construction of the MOQ on hold until he gets rid of her. > > The difference between the teepee and bar scenes? Oh, let me count > the ways... > > DMB > > > > > MOQ.org - http://www.moq.org MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
