Hi Jonathan and All:

I feel at a distinct disadvantage in discussing a subject you have 
devoted many hours to. Not only that, but I�m neither schooled in 
any discipline as you are, nor have any credentials other than an 
abiding interest in matters metaphysical. Thus I offer the thoughts 
of others who do have some credentials, not with the idea of 
winning an argument, but providing you with opposing viewpoints 
that you may not be aware of so you can make your own view 
more persuasive. In other words, knowing what your opponents 
say may help you strengthen your case.

With that in mind, here is the position of Ken Wilber, author and 
psychologist, from the Introduction his book �Sex, Ecology, 
Spirituality�The Spirit of Evolution�:

�It is flat-out strange that something�that anything�is happening 
at all. There was nothing, then a Big Bang, then here we all are. 
This is extremely weird.

�To Schelling�s burning question, �Why is there something rather 
than nothing?,� there  have always been two general answers. The 
first might be called the philosophy of �oops.� The universe just 
occurs, there is nothing behind it, it�s all ultimately accidental or 
random, it just is, it just happens�oops! The philosophy of oops, 
no matter how sophisticated and adult it may on occasion 
appear�its modern names and numbers are legion, from 
positivism to scientific materialism, from linguistic analysis to 
historical materialism, from naturalism to empiricism�always 
comes down to the same basic answer, �Don�t ask.�

�The question itself (Why is anything at all happening? Why am I 
here?)--the question itself is said to be confused, pathological, 
nonsensical, or infantile. To stop asking such silly or confused 
questions, they all maintain, the mark of maturity, the sign of 
growing up in this cosmos.

�I don�t think so. I think the �answer� these �modern and mature� 
disciplines give�namely, �oops� (and therefore, �Don�t ask!�)�-is 
about as infantile a response as the human condition could 
possible offer.

�The other broad answer that has been tendered is that 
something else is going on: behind the happenstance drama is a 
deeper or higher or wider pattern, or order, or intelligence. There 
are, of course, many varieties of this �Deeper Order�: the Tao, God 
Geist, Maat, Archetypal Forms, Reason, Li, Mahamay, Brahman, 
Rigpa. And although these different varieties of the Deeper Order 
certainly disagree with each other at many points, they all agree 
on this: the universe is not what it appears. Something else is 
going on, something quite other than oops . . .� 

Again, Jonathan, I offer this not so much to boost �my side� of the 
argument as for you to respond to as you see fit in your 
forthcoming book which I hope you�ll share (at least parts of) with 
all of us. Obviously I agree with Wilber, but, like you, I�m ready for a 
time out from further disputation. 

Platt

P.S. As I reread this before sending, it occurs to me that perhaps 
I�ve misunderstood you and that you indeed believe �something 
else is going on,� a �wider pattern, or order, or intelligence� as 
Wilber suggests. After all, you were attracted to the MOQ. Have I 
gone astray? (Having just agreed to a time out, it�s unfair to toss in 
this question at the last minute. If it opens up a can of worms 
you�re not interested in getting involved in right now, please ignore 
it.)



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