Hi Rick:

You wrote:

And on more time...
Platt, I ask you:
What rule of logic states that rules must address themselves? Or in 
other words....  What rule of logic states that rules cannot have 
exceptions? And if rules can have exceptions, why can't they exempt 
themselves?

And one more time . . .
Rick, I repeat:
The rule is the Fallacy of Self-Reference which has the logical form of 
contradiction, A and not A. Take your rule, �Rules can have exceptions.� 
But your rule can�t have an exception because a rule cannot be an 
exception to itself. If you argue that your rule can be an exception to 
itself, then it�s not a rule. Either way, your rule is self-defeating and 
illogical.

As for the difference between a logical argument and a rhetorical one, 
in a rhetorical argument you can be illogical (as you�ve illustrated), but 
in a logical argument you can�t. Rhetoric (the use of language 
persuasively) when grounded in logic (principles of reasoning) 
captures the best of both worlds. In this regard, perhaps we can agree 
Pirsig is a master.

Platt




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