You're welcome. Thank you and you're too kind.  (less of the "indulgence"
bit please: you all know I love this kind of stuff, even if I do get annoyed
at some).

All the best

Elephant

> From: Marty Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:14:10 -0800
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: MD criticisms of DQ
> 
> Elephant - Thank you, I beleive I now understand.  In order for the rule
> "Every rule has an exception" to be true, there couldn't be a rule with no
> exception.  But the only way for this rule to be true is to have a rule,
> namely itself, which had no exception.  Therefore the statement that "Every
> rule has an exception" must be a false statement. thank you for your
> indulgence,
> mj
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of elephant Sent: Thursday,
> February 15, 2001 11:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MD criticisms of DQ
> 
> 
> OK MARTY THIS IS THE LAST:
> 
> MARTY WROTE:
>> Elephant,
>> I have been trying to resist, but I must risk exposing my ignorance and jump
>> in.  I understand how a statement like "All rules are false" doesn't work
>> because "all rules are false" is itself a rule and thereby by definition,
>> false.  But "Every rule has an exception" is different.  Here's how I am
>> seeing this:
>> "All rules have an exception" is a rule, and therefore by definition, must
>> have at least one exception.  Therefore there has to be at least one rule
>> with
>> no exception.  The rule with no exception is "All rules have exceptions." How
>> is this illogical?
> 
> ELEPHANT:
> ...because if that rule has no exceptions, then, the rule in question being
> the rule that all rules have exceptions, it follows that it has exceptions.
> Having exceptions and not having exceptions at the same time it is a
> contradiction.  QED.
> 
> tt FOR EVER (on this one)
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