Marco said:

 From my MOQ view point, self consciousness is pertaining the intellectual 
level.
 It's a static intellectual pattern. To state that there's a self conscious 
DQ is
 to diminish DQ.

I dont think that self-consciousness falls under the static category.  Self 
consciousness is Dynamic because the self is Dynamic.  And do we ever attain 
full self-consciousness?  As for the 2nd part of your statement, maybe even 
*naming* DQ is diminishing it.  My history teacher and i often discuss ZAMM, 
and one thing he often points out is that throughout Pirsig's entire journey 
to find the meaning of Quality in ZAMM, he discovered essentially nothing 
new: Lao Tzu knew of it, Buddha knew of it, etc.  So i think DQ is just 
another name for something that has been around for years and has been 
discovered by many people as well.  But, damn, even tho you say calling DQ 
'God' doesn't change a lot, im still struggling with that whole idea.

DQ bless you too,
rasheed


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