> [Case]
> I doubt it the founders were unaware of the difficulty in proclaiming God
the author of freedom. It was not the Lord who freed the colonies or the
slaves it was armies. Nor do I think that individual rights are exclusively
revered by Protestants. As Pirsig points out the founders were also heavily
influenced by the example of the Iroquois Nations.

[Platt]
I doubt about "heavily influenced." Old Ben Franklin may have said something
about the Iroquois, but I how much it influenced the others is highly
debatable.

[Case]
Yeah, all that stuff about Sidas and all. Probably, Pirsig was just kidding.

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