> [David M]
> Here's my suggestion: SOM describes reality and divides it into subjects
> and
> objects. MOQ says, hang on, this division can be eliminated and help us to
> see things in a new way, look there are patterns we call objective and
> patterns we call subjective. Lets take all the patterns and call them SQ.
> Now is there anything unpatterned left over, yes we'll call this DQ, what
> is
> DQ, well it is almost nothing! But see what it makes clear: SQ is not all
> there is.
>
> [Case]
> Several points first of all who says the MoQ and SOM are the only options.
DM: Don't know, not me.
> Other metaphysics revolve around good and evil, life and death, us and
> them,
> all sorts of dualism can be imagined and have been pursued. The MoQ or at
> least Taoism embraces the union of opposites in whatever form they take.
DM: Yes, do you have a point?
>
> Defining or "not defining" Quality as anything that can't be patterned
> moves
> away from the idea that the Tao is The Way. It can not be defined because
> it
> is ever changing but it can be perceived.
DM: Did you miss the Q in SQ? But I'll add that I see static as meaning
patterned
or repeating as opposed to non-repeated change like evolution and history. I
think
repeat/(dis)emerging may be a useful way to see this SQ/DQ split. As for
definition,
that only seems to be applicable to what repeats. Of course it takes a
pattern to appear
twice to be a pattern rather than an event. So all origin is beyond
'definition' but
all repeats can be explain as repeats, only certain kinds of metaphysics go
on to
see this as caused or necessary.
> As for DQ it is already an attempt to define Quality through the
> application
> of the adjective dynamic.
DM: If it means not-static it is a empty definition. But that's a good
non-thing.
Dynamic and static are manifestations of Quality.
> A lightning bolt is a dynamic pattern. A river is a dynamic pattern. So is
> a
> fire and a snowflake. A highway contains dynamic patterns. Biology is an
> explosion of dynamic patterns. Economics is a set of dynamic patterns
> flowing completely from a set of ideas.
DM: Yes, what's your point. My point is that there is much economic
theory, most of it is wrong, and in the end, it will all prove to be wrong.
>
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