[Platt] Well, if you consider other people part of the universe, and they care about you, it appears at least that part of the universe cares after all. If that's so, one wonders about the source of this "caring" business and that perhaps it was built in to the universe from the beginning. After all, among living organisms there's a lot of caring going on out there.
[Case] The caring part is us. Our purposes arise from conditions or our existence. We seek food shelter and sex. We develop complex emotional bonds with other creatures like us. To that extent certainly purpose and value exist in the universe. But this idea that it was there in the beginning has very little to do with us. Unless you are prepared to say what this purpose is our what is has to do with us I really do not see where it is meaningful to talk about it. [Platt Does science recognize that thoughts are a form of electro-chemical energy? I always thought they recognized just four basic forces -- atomic, electromagnetic, strong and weak. Can I assume you're OK with adding psychic force to this list? [Case] All of those articles cited recently about consciousness and brain activity deal with the electrochemical activity of the brain. I am not sure the forces are the same thing as energy but whatever number of forces and states of energy there are psychic is not one of them. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
