Platt, So now let me understand, you say "it is true that the inference of of independent existence cannot be demonstrated", so you agree that nothing can be shown to exist independent of humans? Meaning the statement is fact regardless of your faith? Isn't that objectivity?
On what day, of your everyday experience, have you experienced reality to exist independent of humans? Everyday I wake up, my right ankle hurts for an instant, I believe it is a angel pinching me for good luck - should I doubt that philosophically, after all it's what I believe and you have stated I shouldn't doubt my beliefs. You have too much clutter, and that clutter is your faith. And you won't let go...so there you are. Micah -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Platt Holden Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?) Quoting Micah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Nothing can be shown to exist independent of humans" is an objective > statement. It is fact. Not an objective fact, only a logical truism. It is true that the inference of of independent existence cannot be demonstrated. But we justify such belief pragmatically: we act and survive in the world by assuming it. We should not doubt in philosophy what we believe from everyday experience to be the case. Platt moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
