> [SA previously]
> > Data is the facts. Data is the material
> > evidence. I doubt data is questioned.
[Platt]
> Data is often questioned, such as the bones (data)
> of Piltdown man.
You misunderstand what data is. Data is the
material evidence. Information is the interpretation
of the data. Human beings only interpret the data,
the material evidence. The material evidence (it is
assumed doesn't change), it is the interpretation that
changes. Piltdown man didn't change. The data didn't
change. It was the interpretation that changed. A
intelligent fellow went back to Piltdown man and
reinterpreted what the bones where and discovered the
hoax. The bones didn't change from hominid to
different bones (orangutan I believe with other
bones). It was always a hoax by somebody. It was
just that others didn't interpret the data correctly.
Data=material evidence. How did the material evidence
change with Piltdown man? It is interpretation that
changed with Piltdown man.
[Platt]
> The Princeton studies have been going on for a
> number of years.
Have other scientists at other schools done
studies to support or oppose these Princeton studies?
You can't take the word of one school in the world.
These studies have to be repeated. That's science.
[Platt]
> Do you have data to support your assertion that more
> people results in more livestock? To stop global
warming
> would you favor forcing a reduction in the
population of
> either?
I have no numbers, no data. I just assume that
with more mouths to feed that more domesticated
animals will need to be present. Isn't it that
simple? As to what to do about human population
increase, I don't know. India has a good
contraception program that is turning around their
population increase. China only allows 1 child per
family. I really don't like when 'things' get to the
point where government has to step in.
[Platt]
> Seems this whole series of posts began because you
> had concluded that humans are responsible for global
warming. I'm
> I wrong?
There is evidence to support that humans are the
cause. I haven't know from the beginning with 100%
certainty which way to take this. I do advocate clean
air and water, which since the early 1900's much has
been done to do this. My grandfather talked about how
he had to change shirts in the middle of the day in
Pittsburgh due to so much dirt in the air from the
smoke stacks from the steel factories. His shirt
would turn black. It is not like that anymore. But
it is not recommended that anybody eat the fish in the
waters surrounding the city. I've seen pipes coming
out from some of the surrounding towns that let
discolored fluids into the local creeks and river.
It's definitely not water or kool-aid. A local creek
with all the factories along it is known as one of the
most polluted creeks in the country, and eating any
stocked fish from it is not recommend. I'm big on
keeping forests intact, etc... As for global warming,
all's I've said is the evidence and majority of the
scientists say it's happening. You say it's not, and
I've continually for many posts asked you why you
agree with the FEW and not the MANY scientists. STILL
NO ANSWER. I even told you some posts back don't
assume what I think.
[Platt]
No. I'm saying the cause of global warming is not
settled. So don't use
the issue as an excuse to increase government control
over our lives.
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I gave up on government years ago, and have been
giving my silent vote for years. It is my voice in
protest. So, I'm not asking the government to control
anything, AT ALL! So, for some odd reason you oppose
global warming for the same reasons that others
support global warming. Sounds like the majority of
scientists that support global warming have more
evidence. You have none, and give no reasons NOT to
support global warming other than you can't trust
those dirty scientists duds and dudets. The ones
supporting global warming have evidence and you just
have trust issues. That's the only answers you've
given me. You say look at the sources you've given,
and I said give me the evidence from these sources, if
you've read them. It just sounds as if you've made up
your mind long ago due to trust issues, and just
searched the internet for somebody (cross your
fingers) else that might be somewhat credible that
also opposes global warming.
SA
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