Arlo, Haha haha haha Quality is the less confusing word.
Marsha At 12:05 PM 3/9/2007, Arlo wrote: >[Marsha] >The "betterness" term makes me uncomfortable. It remind me of the water >analogy, "if everything is water, and there is nothing that is not water, then >there is no meaning to water, for there is no way of distinguishing a duality >or difference between water and nonwater." So if everything is evaluated as >"betterness", what does it mean... Am I picking nits? > >[Arlo] >I don't think so. I think we just have differing subtle nuances to how we use >these words. No harm in that. As I said, to me "Quality" and "betterness" are >fairly exchangeable terms. When that amoeba moves away from the acid, I think >saying "the amoeba moves because of Quality" and "the amoeba moves because >where it is moving is better than where it was" are synonymous. But I >appreciate that you don't use the words this way. > >[Marsah] >Quality is the less confusing word. It can be high quality or low >quality. Can >you imagine low "betterness"? > >[Arlo] >"Low Quality" is (for me) another way of saying "worse". A low quality >environment is one that is "worse" than a high quality environment. >Another way >of describing the amoeba situation is to say, "the amoeba was worse-off in >point A than in point B". But this "better" and "worse", for the amoeba, is >determined from its vantage on the biological level. For a >scientist, it may be >"better" to force the amoeba into the acid (not sure why, but...). To use >Pirsig's virus/patient analogy, the virus is simply following what >it perceives >as "better", even though this conflicts with the patient's understanding of >"better". From the patient's point of view, the presence of the >virus creates a >low quality, or "worse", environment than otherwise. But from the virus' point >of view, the host-body provides a high quality, or "better", environment than >otherwise. > > >moq_discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
