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"number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number , number 9" -john lennon "ehhhhh, huh huhuhuhhuhu ehhhh ...what?" -beavis "give me those pliers, porcipine" -Mo -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Case Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MD] FW: Quantum weirdness Fernando, x, "You can check out any time you like But you can never leave." - The Eagles "If California slides into the ocean Like the mystics and statistic say it will I predict this hotel will be standing Until I've paid my bill." - Warren Zevon "I just flipped off President George I'm going to Dizzkneeland." - Dada "People just love to play with words," - Men at Work Relevant? Probably not. Call me old school. Case -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Kulp Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MD] FW: Quantum weirdness Fernando, And As Slayer would say "before you see the light, you must die" ..Take that in a Slipknot context,meaning "you can't see California without Marlon Brando's eye's". -x -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fernando Farah Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MD] FW: Quantum weirdness Yin and yang, I see it. Is the world a perfect sphere? No, by any sorts. Are Mr. Pirsig´s ideas perfect by any sorts? No, by any means... Sad. ¨Sad but true¨, as Metallica says. So, life is a role playing game where, not the ¨Masks of God¨ would appear, but the Masks of Men. I am sorry. I have done unforgiveable mistakes recently and I feel disappointed with myself. And that´s not a Mask. T Does the Oneness behind the masks played on this Universe leads us to goodness - in an evolution sense? To a higher sense of being and reality - maybe like the tantra sex makes appology of? Anyway, life is life Will the future lead us to ¨What do you want from me? Should I sing until I can´t sing anymore?" Is that the plan for evolved creatures. Are they condemned to live in caves and in sorrow because that´s our nature? Is that our nature? Best, Fernando. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 14 Mar > 2007 08:51:14 -0400> Subject: Re: [MD] FW: Quantum weirdness> > [Ham]> > My understanding of symmetry, as related to evolution, is that state > at> which all of the force and energy in the universe is dissipated or > spent,> and what remains of universal matter is at rest. This state is > referred to> as entropy and, according to the laws of thermodynamics, > it is the final> state toward which the universe is inexorably moving. > For anything to> happen once entropy is reached, a new source of > energy> is required. Yet, you are suggesting that symmetry sparked the > Big Bang,> that a balanced energy system gave rise to an asymmetrical > universe whose> energy forces were then unbalanced. How can that be?> > > [Case]> As far as I know symmetry has little or nothing to do with > entropy. What I> was referring to is that physicists have shown that > the forces of nature are> equivalent at higher energies. The > electrical force combines with the> magnetic force and they both > combine with the weak force and eventually with> the strong force. > They have thus far been unable to show how this can> include gravity. > I was suggesting that at the big bang all of the matter in> our > universe was compressed into a single massive point. This is a state > of> perfect order. If the matter collapses to a small enough point > then quantum> effects are suspected to be involved. As a result if > there was a quantum> fluctuation of some sort, for example the energy > and gravity became high> enough to make gravity combine with the other > forces, then imagine the> explosion.> > As far as I am concern this is > the Absolute Source and it is long gone. What> is left is > condensation.> > I will leave to Ron to address you other concerns.> > > Case> > > moq_discuss mailing list> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org> > Archives:> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ _________________________________________________________________ Busque em qualquer página da Web com alta proteção. 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