[Ham] You may think you're bringing me up to speed with this rock guitarist's self-promotion, but I fail to see the point of a 10th dimension. So far as I know, Einstein's universe consisted of four dimensions: three spatial and one temporal. What exactly are the other six?
[Case] I realize getting you up to speed was optimistic. But the point is that string theory and other newer interpretations of physics incorporate multiple dimensions. The video at that site shows you how the dimensions work. [Ham] Dimensionality is an intellectual scrabble game to explain phenomena we can't otherwise understand. The mode of human perception is spatio-temporal. It relates to the four-dimensional world of finite experience. [Case] Actually human perception is assuredly not confine to four dimensions. Access to memory and the ability to model the future allow us to travel back in fourth in time. This mean we can perceive in at least five dimensions. And as the video demonstrates we can conceptualize at least 10. [Ham] The world as finitely experienced is an intellectual construct, as Micah and I have been arguing for some time. To conclude that ultimate reality is limited to such a finite scheme is to reject the value of metaphysical theory and bind yourself to an SOM construct. This is what I thought Mr. Pirsig was trying to escape. [Case] Right, I should ignore the work of physicists and mathematicians and focus on your speculations. Many physicists have complained that because no tests for string theory have yet to be proposed, that string theory should not be considered a part of physics. Instead they maintain it is really speculative metaphysics. It is a simple and coherent theory and I for one plan to keep my eye on it. At its cutting edge physics is metaphysics. So rejecting your idle speculations hardly constitutes a rejection of metaphysics. [Ham] Creation is not an act in time, like winding up a watch mechanism and then letting it run out. It is constant and applies to every moment of cognizant experience. [Case] Creation does seem to have been an act in time and the consequences of that event are now working themselves out though the process of time. [Ham] The universal template is the appearance that is sustained throughout the life of every cognizant being by the awareness/otherness dichotomy. The only way to transcend the appearance of finitude is to end your being-aware and eliminate the dichotomy. [Case] Do you seriously believe that you have arrived at a scheme that warrants ignoring all of math and science? [Ham] Or, of course, you can make up songs about the 10th dimension and pretend you know something that I don't. [Case] Actually I had forgotten there even was a song on that site. In any event I did not listen to it so I really have no idea what you are talking about. I mean even more so than usual. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
