Arlo,
 
> Okay. So all this talk about Quality isn't Quality. I never said it was. But 
> if
> not to talk about it, why are we here? Why aren't we out painting pictures and
> fixing fences and walking our dogs and fishing and riding our motorcycles?
 
I mountain bike and hike.  Had an 8.4 mile hike planned this morning.  But the
recent snow and temp drop lead to something different; a 3 mile hike through 
some
state game lands southeast of French Creek State Park.  Three close friends and 
I
are 30 miles into the Horse-Shoe trail, a 140 mile, equestrian and hiker trail 
from
Valley Forge to the Appalachian trail north of Harrisburg.
 
Why does anyone do anything?  These hikes are most definitely not about reaching
the end of the trail.  The trail is more like a vehicle for something much 
greater.  We
experience nature and our friendships.  And we talk about things.  I almost 
always
say something about my involvement here.  Jim usually has something to say
about Ken Wilber.  And we're all getting much closer to solving the problems of 
the
universe.
 
I'm sure none of us thinks we don't bring our false selves on these hikes.  But 
at the
same time I'm just as sure that everyone intends to be present to his own and 
the
other men's true selves.
 
> (Okay, last one has a lot to do with the 12" of snow on the ground). Why waste
> time coming to a discussion forum whose purpose is to "dualistically" talk
> about Quality? 
 
There's nothing necessarily wrong with the false self.  It's just not the true 
self.
 

Kevin

 
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