{Platt]
Pirsig was an creative, inspiring teacher. We need more like him.
[Ron}
Here,here! The Robert M.Pirsig university of quality Teaching
Is loooong over due in my opinion.
It would be a great start.
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Quoting Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [Platt]
> Due to disastrous public education. I like your qualification,
> "anymore."
> Back in the days of spare the rod, spoil the child, education was
> higher quality.
>
> [ron]
> Also keep in mind that social blind obedience seemed to be an
> unfortunate side effect
Yes. But with school choice, there would be less "blindness."
> Of that method. Question is, how do you endorse the free intellect
> mentality when the Method used is oppressive and draconian in a force
> fed manner. Your modeling your students For an institutional life,
> taken care of with no real need to think independantly.
Discipline in reading, writing and arithmetic never stopped anyone from
thinking independently.
> When people do
> And become distressed they are encouraged to take anti-depressants and
> seek consol.
> If you encourge individuality then it is pushed to its limit and
> nothing is learned You have a society of "victims" with no knowledge
> or discipline just an enhanced Subjective view.
You need a mix of discipline and freedom.
> Question is how do you inspire the "want" the "discipline to learn"?
> How do you first Teach self discipline and then the thirst for
> knowledge As a standard?
First you remove the crutches for those who don't want to learn. Then
you get teachers who inspire students to become all they can be.
> When the question was asked who should be paid the highest in society,
> I say the teachers. That position must be valued by a society or the
> society
Teachers should be paid like anyone else, for their ability to do the
job they are paid to do in a competitive market.
> Degrades. High Art means little to a vandal. I feel academia is
> reversed, with most of the prestige going to Secondary learning. The
> battle is at the primary levels, kindergarten , 1st, 2nd When learning
> traits are developed.
Right on.
> Knowledge
> is'nt
> obtained by a whack o'the head-
> Or I'd be frigg'n Einstein by now. But it has made me wiser about
> answering With what is expected from me and not with my individual
> opinion.
> It has taught me "the nail that sticks up, gets hammerd down".
> That's why I feel Pirsigs 1962 paper on teaching method is so Poiant.
Pirsig was an creative, inspiring teacher. We need more like him.
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