[Craig] You seem to be arguing both sides: that complexity is responsible for both the appearance of free will & its appearing less free.
[Case] Yeah, I know. The perception of or belief in free will is strong and I don't like denying it any more than anyone else. And it is not so much a denial as a recognition of the limits of freedom. It is like there is some left but how much? [Craig] Perhaps it is time to examine Pirsig's solution to the problem of free will: "To the extent that one's behavior is controlled by static patterns of quality it is without choice. But to the extent that one follows Dynamic Quality, which is undefinable, one's behavior is free." [Case] I think this quote highlights the problem really; to what extent are we able to infuse our behavior with dynamic quality? This is also an area where SOM breaks down. We are the nexuses (nexi?) of processes and interactions, some interior and some exterior at some point the distinction between them disappears. [Craig} What test would support or refute his position? [Case] Excellent question, what do you think? moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
