[Case]
> I think the point here is that whatever "caused" the big bang or whatever
> "happened before" it have no causal impact in our world. Space and time 
> for us start at that point. It is the first cause.

[Platt]
How can space and time be created since it takes time and space to create?

[Case]
Space and time are not "things" and they certainly aren't separate "things".
They are one. Time is evident in the first spatial dimension. The first
dimension is a line connecting A to B. If you can specify a distance between
the two points it can be expressed in units of time or space equally well. 

Matter is space/time bent in on itself. You must have seen those gravity
wells that let you roll a coin into the center. The coin gets faster and
faster as it rolls in ever tighter spirals until it falls into a hole not
much bigger than the coin. Matter is this kind of curvature of space itself.



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