Hello Magnus.
 
> > It may or may not be the same thing.  It all depends on perspective.
> > Experiencing the ball, say by catching it, is not the same thing as
> > remembering the experience.  However, according to science both
> > experiences evoke identical physical changes in the brain.  From the
> > perspective of the electro-chemical processes in the brain there is no
> > difference between catching the ball and remembering catching the
> > ball.  And I suppose it's this phenomenon, the ability of the brain to
> > "create reality," that's behind the question, "what's missing?"
> 
> To an idealist, such reasoning may be convincing, but the MoQ recognizes
> both the reality of the ball and the reality of the feeling when catching the
> ball.
 
Thanks for letting me know.
 
Re: What the MoQ recognizes.  Are you saying there exists a definitive and
documented MoQ?
 
> But no, that was not the original question behind the thread. It was about
> what was missing in old (what Bo think is pre-intellectual level) texts.
 
Thanks again for the clarification.  I read your detailed response to Bo on 
this.
Good stuff.
 
> > In my opinion, what's missing in the MoQ is a caveat to all comers
> > that the Metaphysics of Quality is not reality.
> >  
> > On the other hand maps of reality are good and necessary things.
> > And the better the map the better its usefulness.
> >  
> > My problem with the MoQ map is that it places intellect at the top of
> > the value hierarchy as if to say individual human existence is the
> > most valuable form of existence.
> >  
> > In my opinion individual human existence is an oxymoron.  And it's
> > not real.
> 
> Not real? Could you elaborate on that one?
 
I mean that an individual's reality is defined by his or her relationships with
other people and the things and ideas that affect him or her.  I get the sense
from some here that there exists a reality in which individuals are like
isolated intellects, affected by nothing but their own thoughts.  For me there
is nothing real about that.  For me, people affect and are affected by others
and other things.  There's a bit of SOM in this.  And there's a bit of
incarnational mysticism in it too.
 

Kevin

 
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