Quoting Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [Ron]
> Or It can not be reduced to patterns in the way in which we define them
> conventionally.
> All the methods you use as examples involve generalized true false
> methods of recording and measuring
> While the brain uses a complex system of value sets.
> The question remains, is awareness a property outside the processes of
> the brain? From what I
> have read, all evidence supports a theory of it not being outside the
> organ. When The organ 
> becomes damaged, "awareness" becomes damaged so it seems. If the organ
> becomes chemically
> Altered, "awareness" becomes altered. Therefore it is reasonable to
> believe that "awareness"
> Is a property of the organ. This is not absolute or fact by any means
> but it is a reasonable
> Conclusion. It could also be viewed as the sum is greater than the parts
> and therefore trancends
> the matter in which it's systems consists of. But how much of that is
> illusionary? How much
> of awareness is due to a developed cerebral cortex if not all of it?

An opposing viewpoint from David Darling, British astronomer:

"No, it cannot be proved that the subject-object dualistic view of nature is 
wrong
and more than it can be proved it is right. But let us suspend judgment. Let us
accept that it may at least be equally valid to think of the universe as being a
true indivisible entity. Where does this view of reality lead?

"If we accept that everything in the universe has a subjective aspect, then the
brain appears in a new light. The brain begins to look more like a regulator or
editor of consciousness—a reducing valve. Most, if not all the major organs are
regulators. The lungs donÂ’t manufacture the air we our bodies need; the stomach 
and
intestines are not food producers. So if we manufacture neither the air we 
breath
nor the food we eat, why assume that we make, rather than regulate, what we 
think?"

-- from "Soul Search"




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