Ralph, Platt,

Platt, that "sense" is our matter of perspective as sentient and
intelligent life. We interact mainly in the (dynamic) cultural space,
and see our inorganic and biological evolution as essentially history
(dead, static). But that is just a matter of our perspective. ie we
can see the static dynamic choices in the cultural space, we can't see
them so easily in the biological space.

Raplh, the suicide bomber may destroy life (biology) but surely the
reasoning is socio-cultural. The intentions are not biological. Not
sure exactly what you meant by "biocommunity", but it is surely lost
common roots in socio-cultural community that are being overlooked ?

BTW Ralph, not seen your name before - new or did I miss your arrival ?
Ian



On 5/6/07, ralp manfred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> quoting...
> >      [Platt]
> > > Our sense of value (Quality) is basically rooted in
> > > the inorganic and biological
> > > levels (Even a worm knows it's better here) but is
> > > influenced by static patterns
> > > of culture and intellect as we mature.
>
>   to say that our senses of value are influenced by intellect and culture 
> (necessarily entirely static?) is a very astute understatement. it would seem 
> to me that, not only is this the case, but consider the case where, under the 
> influence of these mammoths, an individual infact reverses a particular level 
> of quality, missing it for another, or mistaking it for some abstracted 
> reinterpretation. consider cigarette smoking; the intake of a plethora of 
> TOXIC CHEMICALS! on this point, the worm has us beat...  yet, even on this 
> level, we may observe that this realm of value distinction has fallen away 
> from our immediate range of conscious review. we can not micromanage our 
> bodies on a cellular level (early bioquality) if we wish to manage ourselves 
> on any other higher level. the nature of interplay between static and dynamic 
> quality is that eventually, a static substrate will be built, or "selected" 
> (darwinian sense) by the dynamic process in such a way that it has enough
>  inherent quality to allow new levels and types of dynamics, which lead to 
> new levels and types of statics, and so on. there are only so many levels on 
> which we may sustain active participation in value determination. for 
> instance, we MUST rely on our antibodies to make the correct decisions, 
> because there is no possible oversight for us to assert on the relevant 
> frequency...
> what i am getting at, is the fact that, where ever originaly quality may be 
> rooted, without the proper perspective being continuously sought, it is easy 
> to fall very far away from the roots, perhaps convincing oneself that the 
> best thing to do, despite the history of biocommunity, is to  strap a bomb 
> onto self, and do what one has been convinced to do.
> rlaph
>
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