[Ham to Ron] Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt with 'Kimmel'. I think the confusion here is a result of looking at existence as a "quantitive" reality and seeing its "divisions" in Newtonian or arithmetical
terms. (By the way, you are using "essent" correctly as the opposite of nothingness -- something I find difficult to do.) [Krimel] This was a battle fought in the 1600's. I would have thought you got the memo by now. The foundation of Natural Philosophy was to begin the process of measurement and quantification and to stop relying on the authority of Aristotle and the "church". Newton is a favorite of mine first because, like me he was a Wizard. He was the last of the alchemists and the first true scientist. Second he drove the final nails into the coffin of fuzzy thinking. Today you can think as fuzzily as you wish but you can no longer expect to be taken seriously when you do. Arithmatic? Newton invented calculus. Probability theory is less than two hundred years old. Chaos theory is less than 30 years old. There are new tools available to study and understand our position in this world and you want to throw us back to the muddle of scholasticism. Wake up and smell the coffee, Ham. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
