On Tues 08 May 2007 6:10 AM Platt quotes (Pirsig, Note 1412, Lila's Child)
"The MOQ sees emotions as a biological response to quality and not the same thing as quality. There are many cases, particularly in economic activity where values occur without any emotion." (Pirsig, Note 141, Lila's Child) Hi Platt, Before Lila's Child Pirsig had already proposed levels of evolution from a dynamic influence. If emotions are a level of quality they would certainly not be the same thing as quality. Has the biological response been dynamically altered into a new level? IMO yes! Proprietary awareness (emotions) is not the same as bodily excretions. Economic activity which manifests through laws and customs is the intellectual level, the level beyond proprietary awareness (emotions). Joe > Quoting Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> [Platt] >> To care is to value. >> >> [Ron] >> Now that, makes a connection. To care is to value.. >> Is quality an emotion? Is it THE emotion the one which >> All others stem? >> >> Emotion, in its most general definition, is an intense mental state that >> arises >> automatically in the nervous system rather than through conscious >> effort, and >> evokes either a positive or negative psychological response. An emotion >> is often >> differentiated from a feeling. >> >> Emotion would seem to be termed simularly to a value response >> James-Lange theory "William James proposed that contrary to common >> belief, awareness of bodily changes activated by a stimulus "is the >> emotion" (1890, p449). If no bodily changes are felt, there is only an >> intellectual thought, devoid of emotional warmth." >> One of the most influential classification approaches in the study of >> emotion is Robert Plutchik's eight primary emotions. The emotions that >> Plutchik lists as primary are: >> >> anger >> fear >> sadness >> joy >> disgust >> surprise >> curiosity >> acceptance >> Similar to the way primary colors combine, primary emotions are believed >> to blend together to form the full spectrum of human emotional >> experience. Plutchik reasons that these eight are primary on >> evolutionary grounds, by 'relating each to behavior with survival >> value'. >> >> Value. > > "The MOQ sees emotions as a biological response to quality and not the > same thing > as quality. There are many cases, particularly in economic activity where > values > occur without any emotion." (Pirsig, Note 141, Lila's Child) > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
