[Ian] In that sense Platt, you are the embodiment of your own interpretation of that one Emerson quote. Roughly - "Ignore everyone else, ignorance is bliss".
[Arlo] Do we expect more? [Ian] Great quote, lousy intepretation. [Arlo] It is a great quote, and I hope it does draw people to Granger's work. What is absolutely KEY for me is revisioning the "self" as neither "individual" NOR "collective", but BOTH, as emergentist and evolutionary. Only this way, I think, can we move towards a "self" that is not mired in S/O metaphysics, and one that is instead rooted in the MOQ. What draws me to this chapter is precisely Granger's insights into this. I'm not familiar with Emerson, but I get the sense there is an unwarranted reification here regarding the word "self". That is, we can use the word pragmatically (as Emerson does in this quote), but a sentence-out-of-context should not be used to justify S/O absolutist dichtotomies. [Ian] Whereas in fact Arlo points out Emerson also said... [Arlo] Just to be clear, Arlo did nothing but provide David's words. So it is Granger who is doing the pointing... [Ian] As Arlo summarised... [Arlo] ... and summarizing. [Ian] It's the "relations" between the individual and the collective. [Arlo] Amen, brother. [Ian] In fact it was this chapter that prompted the exchange with Granger I posted on here a couple of weeks ago, asking about views on Emerson. Hope others are prompted to read him. [Arlo] I as well. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
