dmb says: I'm with Keith here. Wilber's quasi-theological terms make me queasy sometimes too, but Krimel's suggestion that he shares anything with the religious right really isn't even plausible. One could quote Wilber's criticism of that sort of religiosity all day long even if this forum's archives were the only available source.
[Krimel] This is a small sample: "Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the mind as emerging from the forces of living matter, or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person." -- Pope John Paul II, "From the very fact the universe is on the whole orderly, in a manner comprehensible to our intellect, is evidence that we and it were fashioned by a common intelligence." -- Philip Johnson, "Our strategy has been to change the subject a bit so that we can get the issue of intelligent design, which really means the reality of God, before the academic world and into the schools." -- Phillip Johnson, "If we are going to save America and evangelize the world, we cannot accommodate secular philosophies that are diametrically opposed to Christian truth." -- Jerry Falwell, "Evolutionary biologists assume methodological naturalism. This is the idea that only natural causes and processes are allowed to account for the complex, information-rich structures of living organisms. So even if God exists we would have a God who has nothing to do with origins, the development of life. Instead, undirected natural causes explain the origin and development of life. So, for all practical purposes you assume the position of a philosophical naturalist or a scientific atheist if you're going to hang your hat on the notion of "undirected natural processes." -- Hank Hanegraaff [Krimel] The religious right bashes evolution and scientific materialism (they call is scientific naturalism) in much the same way and for the same reasons Wilber does. If you think I have quoted people out of context or we want more quotes or more context just say so. These guys write whole books on the subject. Oh, thats what Wilber does too. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
