> [Krimel] > Perhaps there is some distinction between a poll and a survey. But I'm not > sure what it would be and since all you have been doing is talking in > generalities I really don't care. I have no further suggestions on this > matter. You do not seem to be able to specify what this culture > understanding of western culture is or how it should be measured or what it > would mean so it doesn't appear to me that you do either. > > But I could be wrong.
Yes, you could be. The college board people have no trouble identifying western culture, how it can be understood and how it should be measured. See: http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/clep/ex_wc1.html and http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/clep/ex_wc2.html > > [Krimel] > > So now it's understanding facts about culture that matters. Which culture > > should we test to measure depth of consciousness? The culture we see in > > sitcoms? The culture we see in our schools; in our communities; the > > culture of dead white men. How do you test understanding of culture > > between California and Nebraska? > > [Platt] > The Western culture. What else? And it's not "understanding facts." It's > understanding the philosophies and broad historical movements that got us > to where we are today. > > [Krimel] > So a survey of western understanding and broad historical movements. Nice > when can we get started. How about you make up the first ten questions on > the survey. See above. > > [Platt] > > Do you really believe there's a possibility you won't die? What about the > > probability that you were born and that the cause was, well, you know > > ...? > > > > > [Krimel] > > I think there is a high degree of probability that I will die. The odds > > against are like one in billions but you never can tell. The probability > > that I was born is determined largely by the present. Again there is a > > probability against it that I would recon in trillions to one. I don't > > see the payoff in playing odds like that. > > [Platt] > Krim thinks there's a chance he won't die. Get that everybody? > > [Krimel] > > As for the cause? That's up for grabs. My dad used to lament that it was > > because The Pill had not been invented at the time. My mom used to act > > like he was kidding but she never effectively denied it. > > [Platt] > Krim thinks there's a chance he was born from an immaculate conception. > > Intelligent design is 99.9 percent true compared to Krim's "truths." > > > [Krimel] > > Do you believe absolutely that you were born and will die? > > [Platt] > Absolutely. > > [Krimel] > Ok, "everybody" did you get that? It's classic Platt, I have nothing to > add. I'll only add we see classic Krim - - absolutely certain there's no such thing as certainty -- an unshakable belief in that most famous of all self- contradictions, "There are no absolutes." :-) moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
