[Ron] TE, which is all I have to go on for now, coincidentially I have been looking up electromagnetism and found that light is mostly composed of electromagnetic waves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism "As it turns out, the electromagnetic force is the one responsible for practically all the phenomena encountered in daily life, with the exception of gravity. Roughly speaking, all the forces involved in interactions between atoms can be traced to the electromagnetic force acting on the electrically charged protons and electrons inside the atoms. This includes the forces we experience in "pushing" or "pulling" ordinary material objects, which come from the intermolecular forces between the individual molecules in our bodies and those in the objects. It also includes all forms of chemical phenomena, which arise from interactions between electron orbitals." To conclude, all reality is a form of energy of some sort, I would venture to rationaly conclude even our very own minds. Reality and the minds perception of it, which creates the paradox of self and other. wild huh? now, whatcha call this energy and how you interpret it,in all it's forms is up for some debate. I think most at this forum call it Dynamic Quality and view it in terms of value relationships rather than the Mind/matter dualistic paradox of subject object, That's how I view it at least.
[TE] At the beginning of Lila, Pirsig discusses the metaphysical (un)reality of substance. This metaphysical concept of substance reconciles the disparate actuality that quantum physics observes; that the fundamental constituents of substance (quarks, strings, etc) are not themselves considered substance. This idea can be stated in the following elementary paradox: "The stuff that makes up stuff is not stuff. Therefore stuff is not stuff." This simplest example illustrates a theme that reminds me of Emerson's "Intellect" essay, written in 1841. This is how he begins: "Every substance is negatively electric to that which stands above it in the chemical tables, positively to that which stands below it. Water dissolves wood, and iron, and salt; air dissolves water; electric fire dissolves air, but the intellect dissolves fire, gravity, laws, method, and the subtlest unnamed relations of nature, in its resistless menstruum. Intellect lies behind genius, which is intellect constructive. Intellect is the simple power anterior to all action or construction. Gladly would I unfold in calm degrees a natural history of the intellect, but what man has yet been able to mark the steps and boundaries of that transparent essence? The first questions are always to be asked, and the wisest doctor is gravelled by the inquisitiveness of a child. How can we speak of the action of the mind under any divisions, as of its knowledge, of its ethics, of its works, and so forth, since it melts will into perception, knowledge into act? Each becomes the other. Itself alone is. Its vision is not like the vision of the eye, but is union with the things known. Intellect and intellection signify to the common ear consideration of abstract truth. The considerations of time and place, of you and me, of profit and hurt, tyrannize over most men's minds. Intellect separates the fact considered from _you_, from all local and personal reference, and discerns it as if it existed for its own sake. "... Thoughts? moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
