-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Cryptic in genetics Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:33:45 -0700 (PDT) From: andrea cardini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Dear Pablo, maybe you can give a look at the paper below to see whether there's anything interesting for you: Cardini A, Thorington Jr. R. W., P. D. Polly, 2007 - Evolutionary acceleration in the most endangered mammal of Canada: phylogenetic signal and cranial divergence in the Vancouver Island marmot (Rodentia, Sciuridae). Journal of Evolutionary Biology, 20: 1833-1846. "Beside the implications for the study of models of population divergence and speciation, the story of the Vancouver Island marmot can be read also from a rather different perspective. Species with a large phenotypic divergence but small genetic differentiation (measured using a common genetic marker like the mitochondrial cytochrome b) can be seen as the other side of coin of the cryptic species concept" I am sure there's more in the literature but possibly it has not been said explicitly. Cheers Andrea At 15:59 21/05/2008 -0400, you wrote:
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Cryptic in genetics Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:41:45 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: morphmet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear colleagues, Besides the problem behind species concepts and aesthetic (non-scientific) values for particular kinds of phylogenetic and taxonomic characters, I am currently searching for published examples where the species is cryptic from the genetic perspective but recognizable (different) from the morphological perspective. This is a counter-current example which is apparently very difficult to find. An interesting example is the evidence presented by Jeffrey Schwartz on his book: "The Red Ape: Orangutans and Human Origins" where he contests current genetic evidence upon the common origin shared by chimps and humans, arguing instead for the orangutan. I will appreciate any published studies suggesting morphological evidence for species lineage independence (i.e. species) opposing genetic evidence of single lineages (genetically cryptic). Thanks Pablo Pablo Jarrin Ph. D. candidate Dept. of Biology / Boston University M. A. Ecology Behavior and Evolution Boston Univ. Director Yasuni Research Station Escuela de Ciencias Biológicas Pont. Univ. Católica del Ecuador. -- Replies will be sent to the list. For more information visit http://www.morphometrics.org
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