Dear Professor Bookstein,

I'm sorry for my delayed response. Thank you very much for your detailed
explanation of my question about form analysis. I heard about Boas
coordinates, and it seems that using them is the right approach. Thank you
for your suggestion.

Regarding my study, I'm not evaluating any specific hypothesis, but rather
conducting an exploratory analysis to assess how well my taxa differ in
terms of shape and form. Thank you for your additional suggestions on using
Boas coordinates in PCA, PLS, and landmark plotting. These procedures
appear to be a bit more complex and iterative than the conventional methods
used to find major axes of shape or form variation.

 Thank you for the references mentioned. I know all of them except your
2018 textbook, to which I do not have access.

 I assume computing Boas coordinates using the R package geomorph would
look like this simple script:

boas <- simplify2array(lapply(1:length(Y.gpa$Csize), function(j)
Y.gpa$coords[,,j] * Y.gpa$Csize[j])).

I know you mentioned that the use of an arbitrary number of landmarks and
their positions without specific biological meaning also plays a role. So,
I suspect that this script lacks a term to include fixed landmarks.

Like Murat, I'm also impressed by your opinion that CS, at least as used in
the common Procrustes analysis, lacks biological meaning. I think this
requires a much more detailed explanation for the GMM community, who still
use the common procedures and theories proposed 40 years ago.

Again, thank you very much for your detailed explanation and for your
suggestions.



With kind regards,

Pablo

El sáb, 4 oct 2025 a las 23:43, fred bookstein (<[email protected]>)
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