There's no way I could agree with you more.  Bev

However...I think we need to understand that when we make a diagnosis about
the strengths and weaknesses of a student as a reader, we are always making 
a
hypothesis. Students who read slowly orally and comprehend poorly, MAY also
have  that problem when they read silently. We can't KNOW for sure, but we 
darn
  well better investigate and find out!

  An example, a child can comprehend poorly because they read too
slowly---they read too slowly because they are spending too much mental 
energy  in the
decoding process. The flip side of this...when a child reads  accurately and
fluently but has no comprehension is a different problem  and we need to 
start
diagnosis at a different spot. It may be that they  don't have enough
background, they lack vocabulary knowledge, they  can't synthesize ideas 
across the text
or maybe they read too fast and lack  engagement in what they are reading.

While I totally agree with you that you can't be 100% certain that if
students have trouble reading orally then they also will struggle silently,  
there
are times when difficulties with oral reading also manifest themselves in  
when
reading silently. It is our responsibility as educators to gather info from
as many sources as possible, understand the limitations of the info we 
gather
and then try to teach in a way to utilize the strengths of our students and
work  around or remediate the weaknesses.

It isn't about "guessing"... it is making an informed hypothesis by
gathering info. When a kid struggles, I want to know how they are doing with 
  oral
reading AND silent reading...
Don't discount what oral read alouds may tell you about how a child
reads...just interpret it in light of what ever else you know about how that 
  child
learns.
Jennifer
Maryland

   In a message dated 7/17/2007 8:13:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

And  that's
why I say that the question, "How can we possibly know that?" was  indeed a
brilliant question.  What we have seen and heard on this  listserve in
reponse to that discussion pretty much show us adults, who  probably have a
better"guess" about what aids/hinders their comprehension,  giving us
well-documented and personal answers about oral/silent reading  and
comprehension.






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