Very interesting. Would you be kind enough to send links to these two programs?
Thank you, Gayle On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:01 PM, Sandra Stringham wrote: > I've held off putting in my two cents worth, but I just felt I had > to jump in after reading some of the posts about prompts on retelling. > > Why is there such a negative connotation regarding a prompt? Think > about it....when you read a book you really really like and you are > so excited to tell someone about it, do you remember every single > detail? And in having that conversation with the person you are > sharing about the book, what happens when they ask you a question > about the book, you answer it and sometimes it spurs more of your > memory of why you liked the booked so much. Why spend time > teaching kids about a rubric...spend time teaching them what is > important and what the big idea of the book is. > > I'll start right off by saying that is one of the reasons I am not > a fan of DRA. When retelling a story, the student is penalized if > prompted. Many of our students are conditioned from their home > environment/culture not to respond unless asked. Plus, what are we > assessing: comprehension or memory? They read the book one time > and are asked to retell every detail. > > I also wonder why we expect every detail when retelling? I want my > kids to tell me about characters, setting, etc, but as an example, > if they tell me "all the animals" went into the mitten to get warm > (in the book The Mitten) is it wrong as long as they can tell me > how it ended? I've had kids tell the BIG IDEA of books, yet, > didn't tell me every single detail that the DRA required. > Technically, they failed the DRA, yet I think they had a deeper > understanding of the book than what they DRA assessed. > > I would like to suggest two alternatives to DRA: > > 1. Assessment to Instruction: This is set up by genre and begins > with the essential understanding of what the children need to learn > in retelling. In addition to the books and the assessments, > scaffold instruction is laid out from the youngest reader to the > more sophisticated. Anchor charts, forms, assts. its all there. It > comes with a DVD with teachers in conferences or assts. with > children. I'm not doing justice to ATI so I suggest you write to: > > Dr. Janine Batzle > A Place for the Child > 16625 Redmond Way, Ste. M533 > Redmond, WA 98052 > 888-487-5924 > 425-882-6942 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Many of you may recognize her name as a respected member of this > list serve as well as the literacy community. I have used and > continue to use her material in my teaching today. > > 2. Fountas and Pinnell Benchmark Asst. System: This just came out > in July and in addition to helping you teach for deep comprehension > it assesses for deep comprehension. You are certainly NOT > penalized for prompts. I absolutely love how it lays out how to > teach for comprehension in the book, about the book and thinking > about book. It comes not only with the books and asst. but a CD > with professional dev.; data forms, and blackline masters; The > reading continuum is an absolute BIBLE for teaching for deep > comprehension. I have been amazed at how much I have learned just > from using it these last few months and look forward to delving > deeper in it as I learn. F&P has a book that came out about 2 > years ago called Fluency and Comprehension; I found it > overwhelming when I first saw it and let it. Now that I have the > asst kit, the book has opened a whole new world to me in > understanding how I need to teach for deep comprehension. It's > certainly not > overwhelming now and is clarifying so much for me. The asst. kit > comes in to two sets: A-N and L-Z. Go on line and take a look. > My entire district has adopted this for our K-2 asst. system. > > Respectfully, > > Sandi Stringham > 1-2 multiage > Elgin, IL > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
