I am so thankful to hear your thoughts, as I actually thought I was going 
crazy.  The push is coming from the principal and all is being based on the DRA 
and reading continuums.  We actually had Bonnie Campbell Hill come and do 
workshops here with us and she was fantastic, and I loved what she said about 
Literature circles in that it supported all I had been doing and many others in 
the school but let me give you a picture of what is happening.  Some teachers 
were struggling with LIT circles, I offered to run some professional 
development on strategies in the classroom, moving beyond the 'roles' and some 
of the older thoughts about how these run.  The principal said no and the 
reason, 'she didn't want people to be overwhelmed as after all we are just 
starting with DRAs and levelled books'.  Now, for me, the kids know their 
levels and if you look at their scores on a beginning DRA and the end DRA, sure 
there has been development and there would have been regardless of the DRA.  
It's the way I teach reading I believe.   I get 'guided reading' for younger 
classes, I get it.  But, once your kids become really good, independent readers 
aren't you doing more of a 'lit circle' type thing.  I don't know but I agree 
with what you are saying about levels.  And then, they are just pulling titles 
from everywhere, not really matching it up with units, trying to include 
fiction and non ficiton and ordering this all online.  The emphasis on good 
practice seems to be less important than dotting the i and crossing the t.  I 
was told yesterday by the language arts coordinator that I could not order 
books for guided reading that the kids had ever seen before.  They had to be 
new texts to the students.  Now, I have a rotating library of 100 books in my 
room every two weeks, where am I going to get titles the kids haven't seen, or 
browsed through.  I've decided to just 'be quiet', do as I'm told and do what I 
know to do best, but to have these discussions with you and to listen to your 
comments is just such good professional chat for me.  Thank you so much.  I 
have a friend who teaches in Armenia and she just had a consultant in from the 
STATES and it was ll the same thing, DRA, levelled books, reading 
continuums....and if you look at all the big international schools in our area, 
it's the same.  But, I feel so isolated not being able to talk to people on a 
large scale about what they are doing and how it is going.  Thank you for all 
the help.   I love hearing from you all.  Suzanne


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Renee
Sent: Thu 4/24/2008 9:28 PM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] just right books?
 
I'm sure I will get some flack for this, but in my opinion once a 
student is reasonably adept at figuring out text, worrying about 
*levels* is silly, unless the student consistently chooses books to 
read that are way too easy or way too hard.

I think it's real easy to get nit-picky about these things. I remember 
about ten years ago or so, the Reading Recovery teacher at our school 
saying that with a third grader past a certain level (RR, maybe level 
17 or so) it was not necessary to do running records anymore, and yet 
these days it seems like people are doing running records on sixth 
graders at level bazillion. Why are we making more work for ourselves? 
For what reason?

Renee

On Apr 23, 2008, at 9:17 PM, HERBERT Suzanne wrote:

> It would be great if there was some feedback on this.  We are 
> levelling 40 percent of the books that we should be using in the 
> classroom for reading.  I would assume that literature circles and 
> silent reading, the children will take their own choices.  I teach 
> fourth graders, and out of my 18 kids, 15 are independent on DRA Level 
> 50.  So, I'm thinking, how essential is it to stick to 'levelled 
> books' if this is the case and why wouldn't you just encourage wider 
> reading and child choice?  I haven't in the past been into 'exact' 
> levels for guided reading, somewhere in the 'range' and then lots of 
> other reading instruction.  We're an international school, and a bit 
> isolated in terms of these types of conversations.  At the moment we 
> are just following directions blindly but now all these types of 
> questions are starting to be asked.  Any ideas/advice/thoughts greatly 
> appreciated and I so appreciate the chance to speak with you all.  
> Suzanne


"We are here to infiltrate space with ideas."
~ Ramtha



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