I wouldn't teach nonsense words just to improve DIBELS scores and DIBELS tests them to determine a student's understanding of phonics. A strong understanding of sound and spelling patterns will go a long way to help the older students get through some tough words later on. I like to think of DIBELS as a screening tool more than an assessment. It let's me know which kids need to be looked at more closely. I do teach nonsense syllables, and stress the syllable concept because kids are likely to encounter them in real words. It seems like we teach kids individual sounds then expect them to jump right to whole words which is fine if we only read single syllable words. But its those "big" words that get to my Title 1 kiddos. I spend a couple of minutes with fluency work - mostly timing them on speed reading random syllables- and I have seen a big improvement in fluency. I hope that all makes sense Debbie Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:18:07 To:"Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"<[email protected]>, [email protected] Cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Nonsense words What are you thoughts about teaching nonsense words in isolation---just so kids will do well on the dibels test? -------------- Original message -------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Not all books with nonsense words such as those are meant to teach phonics. > I'm thinking of the book Jamberry. What is a "jamberry"? It's fun to play > with the silliness of language and it also shows kids how language can be > played > with and manipulated to make new meanings. Doing this also manipulates > sounds, > not just meanings. This is a great phonologicl/phonemic awareness tool. > Kids > often make up their own new words: my own kids say things like "prettiful" > and > "overbalanced", knowing they are being silly. > > Cathy > Title I Reading > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: anne ehrmanntraut > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 2:00 pm > Subject: [MOSAIC] Nonsense words > > > > > tried to post something last night, but I didn't see the posting. So I will > ost it again. I am taking a literacy course in graduate school and I had a > uestion about books with nonwords or nonsense words. In our graduate class > our > rofessor presented to us a book called "Hairy Bear" The book has sentences > uch as "I will crim cram crash'em" While these are not real words they are > eing used for phonics. Is it such a good idea to use books with words that > are > eaningless? Do you use these type of books in the classroom? Thank you for > our help. -Anne > ________________________________________________________________ > nstantly invite friends from Facebook and other social networks to join you > on > indows Live™ Messenger. > ttps://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_InviteFriends > ______________________________________________ > osaic mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > o unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > ttp://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
