Hi again-
I also need to add, we would look at how the skill or concept was tested and in 
our teaching we would include the language of the test or just have a 
conversation about what would a test question look like that wanted to test 
your ability to infer.  Our state (CA) has released test items from the state 
test and as teachers we would refer to them to see how it was tested so we 
could incorporate that in our teaching.
Jan 
We must view young people not as empty bottles to be filled, but as candles to 
be lit. -Robert Shaffer
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  Hello all-
  I am a returning member to this list.  I have been off-list for about 3 years.

  I have been a literacy/math coach for the last 6 years.  Before that I taught 
for 9 years, the last 6, in 4th grade. 
  I (and teachers I have coached) struggle with that same issue.  What our 
district did was decide to set aside 20 to 30 minutes a day for skills work.  
This is not test prep, but rather specific skills.  We would teach the skill 
during this time, then during readers' (or writers') workshop we would 
incorporate the skills they had learned into the lesson.   This year we were 
also asked to incorporate Marzano's content vocabulary structures.  So, if 
teachers are going to be teaching inference, we will spend 2 or 3 days in 
skills getting to the meat of what it means to infer.   It was well worth the 
time.  The students now had some knowledge and understanding as they attempted 
to apply the strategy during their reading.
  Jan 
  We must view young people not as empty bottles to be filled, but as candles 
to be lit. -Robert Shaffer
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    Lynelle,  Mary Helen, or anyone else,

    What are your scores like on the reading assessment?  I am curious because
    mine have been low and the pressure is mounting.  I teach using strategies
    and use lots of literature circles and reading workshop.  I love the
    thinking, true thinking that I see in my classroom and would never trade my
    strategies for a basal or more test prep, but I feel that I'm going to be
    forced to change something.  This year I worked in a coach book lesson that
    I thought would tie in whatever I was teaching, hoping for a slightly more
    authentic approach to getting them ready for the test.  I spent the weeks
    leading up to the test teaching the format and trying to prepare them, which
    is a huge waste of valuable educational time.  I'm wondering if I should buy
    the Toolkit myself or try to talk someone in administration into buying it
    for me.  I have done everything I know to teach authentically and to stay
    true to what I believe.  I hate the testing pressure and am truly at a loss
    as an educator.  Can you give me any direction as far as a connection
    between testing and the Toolkit.  I feel so shallow asking that, but I think
    anyone in public education, especially in a testing grade would understand.

    Thanks a bunch!
    Mary
    5th grade/PA

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    > Mary Helen,
    >
    > Our school district just adopted the Toolkit as our reading program. (My
    > school is in year 3 of the reader's workshop with the strategies.)
    However,
    > I met with a group of ladies from another site who had gone to the
    training
    > with Stephanie Harvey's Consultant and it was fabulous! I sat down and
    asked
    > them what questions they had for me. Many of them were very thought
    > provoking.  Some of them were very simple. Our district is relatively new
    > with the PLC idea, but having been a curriculum instructor and a classroom
    > teacher I have learned the best approach for me is "What can I do to help
    > you with this new idea?"  My advice would be to allow the participants who
    > need to make "small steps" that opportunity. If there is one thing I
    learned
    > as a curriculum instructor it is not every goes "full throttle" with a new
    > idea like me! :-)  Your enthusiasm for this will also lead! Many people
    see
    > our passion and excitement and usually they will grab on!! Good Luck!!
    >
    > Lynnelle Winter
    > 5th Grade West Intermediate
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    >
    >
    > >I just spent 2 fabulous days learning from Stephanie Harvey along with 14
    > >staff members from my school.  The only other school that out-numbered us
    > >was Ginger's....Liberty!  Way to go!
    > > I had a great conversation with Ginger (so nice to put a face with the
    > > name!)  It was like meeting a 'rock star'!  My staff did not understand
    my
    > > excitement because they are new to mosaic...I hope some of them have
    > > signed on to learn!
    > > As I told Ginger, I have been a "lurker" on the site, was off for a
    while,
    > > but have been back for a bit....reading and trying to refresh and
    > > learn/relearn about the strategies.  Now I am officially a 'poster'!
    > >  Hearing Stephanie Harvey speak and feeling her passion was incredible.
    I
    > > would love to know if there are any 'newbies' out there who are just
    > > getting started and others who are veterans who can support the newbies
    in
    > > the quest to be better teachers of thinkers.
    > > I think of the great conversations that happened upon the release of
    both
    > > Mosaic and STW last summer as well as To Understand by Ellin Keene this
    > > summer.....the book conversations were and have been, as always,
    > > thoughtful.
    > >  What I wonder....for those of you that have been part of the growth of
    a
    > > professional learning community using Comprehension strategies,  and
    have
    > > witnessed the positive impact, would you share the approach you took?
    Is
    > > there anything in particular you did to get started?  What is the one
    > > piece of advice/experience/wisdom you would share for those of us just
    > > embarking on this venture?  What obstacles did you face and how did you
    > > face them?
    > >
    > > Mary Helen
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