I use the mini-lesson once a week or so for the read aloud.  I feel no guilt
about it.  I read the book, ask the kids what they think, and move on.  Then
I refer back to the reads throughout the year.  I read Patricia Polacco
first thing every year.  I spend several weeks with her books.  I tell the
kids these are the "Masters" and we refer to them all year.
Kim

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Beverlee Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I don't think it would be typical to begin your readers' workshop with a
> read-aloud, but I agree with Lori, it depends.  I think the only answer to
> your dilemma are some other questions.  What is your purpose?  What do you
> need to transfer?  Is there something to be gained by reading an entire
> read-aloud at that time which couldn't be gained another way?  The only
> thing I'd be comfortable saying is that most often readers workshop does
> not
> begin with an entire book being read aloud.
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I guess I have been laboring under the idea that a read-aloud is done
> >  during
> > reading workshop,too.... I teach first and although I do like Lori's
> > comments about ending the morning meeting with a read aloud that sets the
> >  objective
> > of the day and then using excerpts.. I wonder about first grade.... so
> >  many
> > especially in the beginning seem to need the book in front of them. I
> >  wonder
> > if that is why Debbie Miller did her accountable talk in that way....
> >  since
> > her lessons are geared to first grade. I'd especially like commets from
> >  primary
> > teachers ... what's your thoughts... how do you structure your reader's
> > workshop?
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/2/2008 6:36:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > I see  many teachers who close their opening or morning meeting with a
> > picture  book read aloud and then transition to mini lesson. While I
> agree
> > that as a  general rule of thumb, mini lessons are short...I think
> teacher
> > needs to  reserve the right to go maxi with intentionality.  That is, the
> > lesson  is long because some lessons need to be long, not because I lost
> >  my
> > teaching point or got diverted by several others (which sure happened to
> >  me
> > when I first started this).
> >
> > Lori
> >
> >
> > On 10/1/08 7:43 PM,  "Melissa Kile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > While I agree  with this in principle (reading the book at a separate
> > time),
> > > the  lessons I've done out of Reading W/ Meaning have the teacher
> reading
> > the
> > > book and stopping to model and think aloud, using the focus  strategy.
> > How
> > > would I do that if I had read the book earlier? For  example, if I had
> > read
> > a
> > > book previously that I plan to teach  inferencing with, wouldn't I
> still
> > need
> > > the book to show the children  how I interact with the text? That is my
> > > dilemma!
> > >
> > >  Melissa/VA/2nd
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Mary Manges  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This has been part of my  problem in being able to fit it all in.  I
> > still
> > >> believe I  could use a longer language arts block, but I'm determined
> to
> > >>  work
> > >> with what I have and do my best.  In my thinking of a  mini-lesson I
> was
> > >> including the read aloud as the mini-lesson and  couldn't figure out
> how
> > to
> > >> keep it short.  I have the same  problem in writing workshop when I
> use
> > >> literature to teach a  writing craft.  I do have to admit that after
> the
> > >> advice I  was given on this list I was much better at being as brief
> as
> > >>  possible this week.  I found myself choosing my words carefully and
> > trying
> > >> to be as direct as possible.  It also made me realize  that I need to
> > spread
> > >> certain lessons out over more days instead  of trying to cram too much
> > at
> > >> one
> > >> time.  I can  see that my kids are going deeper and getting the
> concept
> > >> better  than in the past.  The testing pressure demons are still
> >  hovering,
> > >> reminding me that I'm not covering enough to be ready  for state
> > >> assessments,
> > >> but I just keep ignoring them,  knowing that I'm doing what is best
> for
> > my
> > >> students.
> > >>  Thanks,
> > >> Mary
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To:  <[email protected]>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 01,  2008 5:36 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] length of mini  lessons
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I must reiterate your  mention of when to do your read aloud.  Read
> > Aloud,
> > >>>  according to everything I've read and seen, is a separate entity,
> not
> >  to
> > >>> be
> > >>> included in Reading Workshop  minilesson.  It can be referenced
> during
> > >>   the
> > >>> minilesson, but how in the world  could a teacher  teach a 10-minute
> > >>> minilesson with
> > >>> a read aloud  included????
> > >>>
> > >>> Leslie
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> In a message dated 9/26/2008 5:55:14 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
> > >>>
> > >>> keep  your mini lesson very  explicit, and short.  I do
> > >>> realize it is hard to   get the read aloud in, do the vocab, then
> teach
> > >>  the
> > >>> lesson, have time for  them to practice with you,  then they practice
> > >>> independently, but if you  keep the  teaching part short, chances are
> > >>> they'll
> > >>>  remember what you said  and us what you said.
> > >>>
> > >>> One way to keep the length of your mini lessons  short  is to do the
> > read
> > >>> aloud at another time.  That is a major  tenet of  Lucy Calkins' mini
> > >>> lesson
> > >>>  structure.  Just use the part of the text that  matches your
>  teaching
> > >>> point.
> > >>>
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Fresno, California 93702

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