I definitely think we need to be flexible when doing our read alouds and our minilessons, but i feel strongly about not compromising the time that kids get to read on their own and the use of this time for conferring with individuals or with small groups. Leslie In a message dated 10/3/2008 9:31:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I teach second grade and have also used the read-aloud during the reader's workshop time ala Debbie Miller. I guess I have always felt like my 2nd graders would benefit from the read-aloud and the modeling at the same time instead of interrupted times. Many times I spend more than one day on a read-aloud so I don't read the whole book in one sitting. I also arrange some mini-lessons into smaller "chunks" if you will, and spread it over a few days. And there have been days when the lesson is longer than a normal mini-lesson. I think you adjust for the lesson and strategies you are teaching that day. I feel that I need to be flexible in how I approach each lesson. Does that make sense? Sometimes when I'm really on a roll, I connect reader's workshop read-alouds to the writer's workshop lesson or vice versa. That happens a lot by chance so I need to be better at planning this ahead of time! I'm also interested in hearing what more of you do. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] length of mini lessons I guess I have been laboring under the idea that a read-aloud is done during reading workshop,too.... I teach first and although I do like Lori's comments about ending the morning meeting with a read aloud that sets the objective of the day and then using excerpts.. I wonder about first grade.... so many especially in the beginning seem to need the book in front of them. I wonder if that is why Debbie Miller did her accountable talk in that way.... since her lessons are geared to first grade. I'd especially like commets from primary teachers ... what's your thoughts... how do you structure your reader's workshop? In a message dated 10/2/2008 6:36:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I see many teachers who close their opening or morning meeting with a picture book read aloud and then transition to mini lesson. While I agree that as a general rule of thumb, mini lessons are short...I think teacher needs to reserve the right to go maxi with intentionality. That is, the lesson is long because some lessons need to be long, not because I lost my teaching point or got diverted by several others (which sure happened to me when I first started this). Lori On 10/1/08 7:43 PM, "Melissa Kile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > While I agree with this in principle (reading the book at a separate time), > the lessons I've done out of Reading W/ Meaning have the teacher reading the > book and stopping to model and think aloud, using the focus strategy. How > would I do that if I had read the book earlier? For example, if I had read a > book previously that I plan to teach inferencing with, wouldn't I still need > the book to show the children how I interact with the text? That is my > dilemma! > > Melissa/VA/2nd > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Mary Manges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >> This has been part of my problem in being able to fit it all in. I still >> believe I could use a longer language arts block, but I'm determined to >> work >> with what I have and do my best. In my thinking of a mini-lesson I was >> including the read aloud as the mini-lesson and couldn't figure out how to >> keep it short. I have the same problem in writing workshop when I use >> literature to teach a writing craft. I do have to admit that after the >> advice I was given on this list I was much better at being as brief as >> possible this week. I found myself choosing my words carefully and trying >> to be as direct as possible. It also made me realize that I need to spread >> certain lessons out over more days instead of trying to cram too much at >> one >> time. I can see that my kids are going deeper and getting the concept >> better than in the past. The testing pressure demons are still hovering, >> reminding me that I'm not covering enough to be ready for state >> assessments, >> but I just keep ignoring them, knowing that I'm doing what is best for my >> students. >> Thanks, >> Mary >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] length of mini lessons >> >> >>> I must reiterate your mention of when to do your read aloud. Read Aloud, >>> according to everything I've read and seen, is a separate entity, not to >>> be >>> included in Reading Workshop minilesson. It can be referenced during >> the >>> minilesson, but how in the world could a teacher teach a 10-minute >>> minilesson with >>> a read aloud included???? >>> >>> Leslie >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 9/26/2008 5:55:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>> keep your mini lesson very explicit, and short. I do >>> realize it is hard to get the read aloud in, do the vocab, then teach >> the >>> lesson, have time for them to practice with you, then they practice >>> independently, but if you keep the teaching part short, chances are >>> they'll >>> remember what you said and us what you said. >>> >>> One way to keep the length of your mini lessons short is to do the read >>> aloud at another time. That is a major tenet of Lucy Calkins' mini >>> lesson >>> structure. Just use the part of the text that matches your teaching >>> point. >>> >>> Barb Parry >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org<http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org>. >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive>. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >> tips >>> and >>> calculators. 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