Actually, since I have never seen a perfect score on a DRA, I believe that every DRA tells us something about the reader. That rubric scored section lets me look for the strengths and the weaknesses of each child. Like writers, readers always have room to grow.
Lori On 11/3/08 10:05 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another thought...or question.....I guess that the instructional level > helps me know kids better in terms of instruction. But I realize the > Independent Level for that same child, as different as it may be, tells > us something very different. I don't think all the teachers at my > school get that really.... > > For example at the indepentent level you might not know that literal > comprehension is even a problem. Does that make sense at all? > > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:33 AM, ljackson wrote: > >> For me, it is now about far more than a single student's performance. >> Now I >> have to look at trends and patterns. For example, last spring we >> realized >> that we have lots of children who are struggling with those items >> labeled >> literal. And the realization was, that in all our push to deepen >> understanding, we have neglected to talk to children about something >> as >> basic as how to skim and scan for literal information. We just have >> to be >> ready to learn about our kids at every step of the way, not just to >> know >> them better, but to know our instruction better. >> >> Lori >> >> On 11/3/08 5:04 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I sent this last week. Not sure if it posted as I bot a "bounce back" >>> notification. Nancy >>> If it is written retell that is an issue, then I often question >>> whether or >>> not students are having opportunities to write in response to >>> literature. >>> Or they have not been taught the retelling rubric. That is one of >>> many >>> important things I learned from you, Lori. Children must know the >>> goal they >>> are trying to attain. It can't be a mystery. >>> Nancy >>> >>> In a message dated 11/2/2008 7:47:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>> >>> >>> Lori, >>> >>> We, too. often see students in levels above 28 who just need >>> "shoring >>> up" in summary writing. The leap there can be quite challenging >>> which >>> presents as a plateau in reading growth. But it's not too >>> surprising >>> that happens as written expresion catches up. So interesting! >>> >>> My question is this......would the Instuctional Level be more >>> helpful in >>> planning instruction, especially when it comes to the Focus for >>> Instruction....If we are going to drive instruction with this >>> assessment....would instructional be the goal? Thoughts anyone? >>> >>> Liz Haste >>> Virginia Beach >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Ljackson wrote: >>> >>>> >>> There are multiple levels of text at this level, but I would also >>> encourage the teacher to look closely at what is keeping the child >>> from >>> attaining a higher level. If it is written retell that is an issue, >>> then I often question whether or not students are having >>> opportunities >>> to write in response to literature. >>> >>> Lori Jackson >>> District Literacy Coach and Mentor >>> Todd County School District >>> Box 87 >>> Mission SD 5755 >>> >>> ----- Original message ----- >>> From: Kelly Andrews-Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:34 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] DRA2 Question >>> >>>> Carol, >>>> Yes, because you truly want to see if the child remains independent >>>> at >>>> that level. We had a child enter gr 4 at a L38 and test down to a >>>> L28. >>>> It's amazing how much some children can lose over the summer. >>>> KellyAB >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/30/08 9:50 AM, "SPINELLO, Carol" >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Readers! >>>> I am hoping someone can help me with a question that keeps coming >>>> up >>>> in our school regarding the DRA2. Do you ever test down? For >>>> example, >>>> in the fall a child scored in the independent range on a level 28 >>>> but >>>> only instructional on the level 30 so the teacher stopped the >>>> assessment. During the winter assessment the teacher began >>>> assessing >>>> the child with the level 30 text and again the child did not score >>>> at >>>> the independent range so at this point does the teacher test the >>>> child >>>> down even though the child already passed the level 28 previously? >>>> I hope I made this clear enough to understand. I would appreciate >>>> your >>>> thoughts on this. >>>> Carol >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mosaic mailing list >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> To unsubscribe or modify your >>>> membership please go to >>>> >>>> >>>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >>>> >>>> <http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >>>> >>>> <http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >>>> . >>>> >>>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>>> <http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive> >>>> <http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mosaic mailing list >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> To unsubscribe or modify your >>>> membership please go to >>>> >>>> >>>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >>>> >>>> <http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >>>> >>>> <http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >>>> . >>>> >>>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>>> <http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive> >>>> <http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive> . >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >>> >>> <http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >>> >>> >>> <http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >>> . >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>> <http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive> >>> <http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive> >>> . >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. 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