Thank you. I really needed this discussion. I went down to 2nd grade because I saw this with upper grade students. We have fluency tests every six weeks and practice weekly. I think this makes us stress decoding, without comprehension. I wanted to see if the reading strategies taught early really made a difference and I have found they do. I wish I could afford the Primary Tool Kit, but I have tried to include all of the work without the Kit, not perfect, but the best I can do.
On Apr 10, 2009, at 2:42 PM, K L wrote:

Toni,

I am finding the same problem with my 3rd graders (and 2nd graders too). I have found over the last few years that the students are coming to third grade as good decoders, due to the intense focus on phonics in the lower grades. For the most part, they are proficient with the basic sight words which is another focus.

This year I picked up second grade as well (I am the only Reading Specialist this year due to budget cuts in Title I funds). In addition, we decided to assess all of the second graders using DIBELS at the beginning of the year, mid-year, and at the end of the year. Normally, we only use DIBELS for students that have been identified as below grade level by the classroom teacher. I made an alarming discovery at the beginning of the year. The "proficient" readers which were "more fluent" according to DIBELS (in the green area) were not pausing when they missed a word or rereading if it didn't make sense. There is no way some of them were comprehending what they were reading. I brought this point up at grade level and we brainstormed some possible ideas. My intervention program doesn't provide anything but phonics, decoding strategies, and basic sight words. There isn't enough material in the little books to work on comprehension strategies. The second grade teachers commented that the program was successful with the students in the past and that some of the students needed the decoding and sight word recognition but they were addressing that in literacy centers. I showed them the comprehension strategies that I had started two years ago with my third grade students based on Mosaic of Thought and Stategies that Work. In conclusion, I persauded the principal to purchase The Primary Comprehension Toolkit and started using that as my intervention program after Christmas with my second graders. So they had decoding/sight word intervention for the first half of the year and comprehension strategies interevention the second half of the year.

My experience with third graders in the past few years has been that visualization is difficult for them to grasp at first. They don't understand that when you read a book, it should be like watching a movie in your head. I wonder if that has anything to do with the focus on phonics, decoding skills, and sight words in the lower grades. I don't think that students see reading as a form of entertainment much like watching a movie or TV show. I know from experience with my own child, who is in 2nd grade, that is true. She chose to read "picture books" over chapter books for at least the first half of this year. She said that chapter books were boring because they were too long and didn't have enough pictures. Many a night we would have a little discussion about how there are more words (= longer text) and fewer pictures because the author uses the words to help her paint the pictures in her head. And this is my creative child with the great imagination. My older child was a bookworm from the beginning and was reading chapter books by the end of kindergarten because she chose them. My girls are five years apart and the National Reading Panel's report came after my oldest was in second grade and the focus in instruction changed after that report. Coincidence or not??? I don't know for sure, it could just be a difference between my children. The interesting thing is that I see the same thing with my students.

Kate




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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Comprehension


I am currently in the my fifth year of teaching and I have seen the same

thing.  Our districts focus the last few years has been on Reading

fluency. This year I have had 3rd graders coming into my classroom, who are

trying to read so fast that they don't even realize when the decoding breaks

down and what they are saying doesn't make sense. I encourage my students to

stop reading periodically and think about what they just read about and

visualize "the movie in their head". If they can't, then they should go

back and reread.  Also, have students draw a picture of what they read

about helps them with this. We spend the first few weeks of school

focusing on visualiztion. I would like to read that article, it sounds

interesting.

Where did you find it?



Have a nice day!

Tomi Dodson



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