I so agree!!!  This describes what happens perfectly.

sally


On 11/10/09 4:13 PM, "Beverlee Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:

> A very wise college prof I had says, "Anything that can be used, can be
> abused."
> 
> I feel the same about cooperative learning a la those extremists or
> extremists with math manipulatives, etc.  My favorite example is from a
> teacher in Colorado, who had a zap right as she heard herself say, "Boys and
> girls, shush up!  No talking!!  It's time for oral language!!!"  I'm glad
> she could laugh at herself and share because I think about that statement a
> lot.
> 
> If you have to break apart a group functioning beautifully and assign
> cooperative roles, think again.  If you have to keep dumping out those
> unifix cubes onto the table of a child who's trying to explain to his near
> neighbor how you can mentally do "that" in at least 2 different ways, and
> "let's see if there's even another," think again.  If you take a group of
> book lovers who have come to you starving for literature to feed their
> passion and who thoughtfully and collaboratively discuss at a higher level,
> don't get out the role sheets, for heaven's sake.  Think again.
> I agree with my old college prof.  And we in education could do with a
> little benign neglect in our teaching methods and a good pair of eyes and
> ears to observe with.  Sometimes our kids slip past us.
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Stewart, L
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> "In my experience, strategy instruction works. For all kids, not just
>> strugglers. I do not believe it is only for struggling readers. I would
>>  like to see the list discuss what aspects of strategy instruction, as it is
>> currently being implemented, turns kids off from the love of reading so
>>  that we can all learn what to avoid."
>> 
>> I never meant to imply that only struggling readers need strategy
>> instruction.  Certainly all of my students need experience determining theme
>> and author's craft, etc.  But I think if I hear one more child say I can
>> make a text-to-self connection and then make the most minimal connection to
>> the text they are reading I may go crazy!  I hear mind-numbing conversations
>> and weeks of instruction on one strategy in multiple classrooms across
>> multiple grade levels.  I certainly think children should find ways in which
>> they relate to text but that will come with more exposure to text and a lot
>> more CONVERSATIONS with peers as well as teachers.  Strong readers don't
>> think about the strategies in isolation.  Our school is advocating a model
>> where the child reads with me in a small guided group for maybe 20 minutes
>> once or twice per week and then reads their independent reading book,
>> attempting to utilize the same strategy we discussed in guided and then
>> writes about it in a letter to me.  Sorry Fountas and Pinell...I just don't
>> think that is what authentic reading is about.  I don't follow the plan.  I
>> do pull guided groups, but afterwards my kids go back and read a book with a
>> small group of their peers and talk about it and they may or may not discuss
>> the strategy they practiced with me.  Writing about reading flows naturally
>> after conversations about reading.  The teachers on this site all love
>> reading and teaching reading.  What about those teachers who don't?  I think
>> the model can be deadly and it is difficult to implement by even the most
>> experienced teacher.  I know that I am not supposed to have read the books
>> my children are reading, but how can I comment and model if I don't know the
>> text?  So, I have five reading groups and they are all in different texts.
>>  I don't get a lot of sleep, but so far I don't think I've lost any future
>> readers of America to the reading war and I am proud of that.
>> 
>> Leslie R. Stewart
>> (203)481-5386 X310  FAX (203)483-0749
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter
>> and those who matter don't mind."
>>  ~ Dr. Seuss
>> 
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