I am going to play Devil's Advocate on the manipulatives front:

What about the child who can rattle off multiplication tables, or who has memorized the steps for "borrowing" and "carrying" (in quotation marks on purpose), but who has absolutely no clue what it means to multiply, or why he/she is crossing out those numbers and writing in a smaller number/putting a one next to a number?

When I taught third grade, oh these many years ago, and adding and subtracting with regrouping was actually part of the third grade standards (not first grade), I spent the first six weeks of school with base ten blocks, doing activities with trading and regrouping.

Just a thought....
Renee


On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:00 PM, thomas wrote:

I so agree!!!  This describes what happens perfectly.

sally


On 11/10/09 4:13 PM, "Beverlee Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:

A very wise college prof I had says, "Anything that can be used, can be
abused."

I feel the same about cooperative learning a la those extremists or
extremists with math manipulatives, etc. My favorite example is from a teacher in Colorado, who had a zap right as she heard herself say, "Boys and girls, shush up! No talking!! It's time for oral language!!!" I'm glad she could laugh at herself and share because I think about that statement a
lot.

If you have to break apart a group functioning beautifully and assign
cooperative roles, think again.  If you have to keep dumping out those
unifix cubes onto the table of a child who's trying to explain to his near neighbor how you can mentally do "that" in at least 2 different ways, and "let's see if there's even another," think again. If you take a group of
book lovers who have come to you starving for literature to feed their
passion and who thoughtfully and collaboratively discuss at a higher level,
don't get out the role sheets, for heaven's sake.  Think again.
I agree with my old college prof.  And we in education could do with a
little benign neglect in our teaching methods and a good pair of eyes and
ears to observe with.  Sometimes our kids slip past us.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Stewart, L
<[email protected]>wrote:

"In my experience, strategy instruction works. For all kids, not just
strugglers. I do not believe it is only for struggling readers. I would like to see the list discuss what aspects of strategy instruction, as it is currently being implemented, turns kids off from the love of reading so
 that we can all learn what to avoid."

I never meant to imply that only struggling readers need strategy
instruction. Certainly all of my students need experience determining theme and author's craft, etc. But I think if I hear one more child say I can make a text-to-self connection and then make the most minimal connection to the text they are reading I may go crazy! I hear mind-numbing conversations and weeks of instruction on one strategy in multiple classrooms across multiple grade levels. I certainly think children should find ways in which they relate to text but that will come with more exposure to text and a lot more CONVERSATIONS with peers as well as teachers. Strong readers don't think about the strategies in isolation. Our school is advocating a model where the child reads with me in a small guided group for maybe 20 minutes
once or twice per week and then reads their independent reading book,
attempting to utilize the same strategy we discussed in guided and then writes about it in a letter to me. Sorry Fountas and Pinell...I just don't think that is what authentic reading is about. I don't follow the plan. I do pull guided groups, but afterwards my kids go back and read a book with a small group of their peers and talk about it and they may or may not discuss the strategy they practiced with me. Writing about reading flows naturally after conversations about reading. The teachers on this site all love reading and teaching reading. What about those teachers who don't? I think the model can be deadly and it is difficult to implement by even the most experienced teacher. I know that I am not supposed to have read the books my children are reading, but how can I comment and model if I don't know the text? So, I have five reading groups and they are all in different texts. I don't get a lot of sleep, but so far I don't think I've lost any future
readers of America to the reading war and I am proud of that.

Leslie R. Stewart
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Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
 ~ Dr. Seuss


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