Try Allington's Book What Really Matters In Response to Intervention.

Kay Kuenzl-Stenerson
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   1. Re: readers workshop approach ([email protected])
   2. Re: readers workshop approach (Sally Thomas)
   3. Summarization (e h)
   4. Re: readers workshop approach (Sally Thomas)
   5. Re: readers workshop approach (Terry)
   6. Re: readers workshop approach (e h)
   7. Re: readers workshop approach (Mena)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:07:21 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach
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 Sally, Would you happen to know exactly what book title has the information 
about students reading at least one hour during the school day?

Thanks!

Rosie






-----Original Message-----
From: Sally Thomas <[email protected]>
To: mosaic listserve <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach


Use Richard Allington's work.  Lots of research that says children need to

be reading (not doing reading stuff) AT LEAST one hour a day at school and

they need to be reading books that are at their "just right" level.   His

latest is on response to intervention but his overall book that summarizes

research in reading is excellent.  It would be a great book to read as a

staff or to hand a principal. (note this doesn't specifically support

reading workshop BUT reading workshop is a structure that can allow a

teacher to implement the findings of research, ie an emphasis on actually

extensive reading AND reading at appropriate levels for each child.)

Sally





On 11/28/10 6:53 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:



>

>  I am trying to convince my principal that our current literacy instruction is

> ineffective and should be abandoned.   We currently use a basal series, and

> leveled readers from the series.  Students work on stations while I teach

> small groups.  There are so many problems with this concept...

>

> I have students who read at the Premier level up to 8th grade, yet they are

> all taught from the 4th grade basal.

> The stations are basically busy work, not matter what I do to differentiate

> them, and everything has to have a product (which means lots of wasted copy

> paper)

> About 6 of my 22 students do not finish or turn in their weekly stations

> There is absolutely no time for actual reading

> The lowest leveled reader that came with the series is 3.5 reading level, this

> does not help the 5+ students I have that read below that reading level

> I would like to introduce readers workshop but need some research to prove my

> point.  Does anyone know where I can locate some?

>

> Thanks,

> Rosie

>

>

>

>

>

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:59:16 -0800
From: Sally Thomas <[email protected]>
To: mosaic listserve <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach
Message-ID: <c9199a74.3378%[email protected]>
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What Really Matters for Struggling Readers

I also saw an article by him that said it all very succinctly 0 I have it in
a box somewhere.  Think I'll try to track it down.  I used it in working
with a number of schools trying to evade Reading First practices.  Let me
work on that some more.  He based it on a very large study with Peter
Johnston on the reading practices of the most effective reading teachers in
the country.  It made the case for actual time spent reading, reading just
right books, and excellent teaching of good reading strategies.  (fits with
this list serve for sure!)   Let me try looking.  I certainly can dig out my
boxes over the holidays if worse comes to worse if you still need it.

Sally


On 11/29/10 4:07 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
>  Sally, Would you happen to know exactly what book title has the information
> about students reading at least one hour during the school day?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rosie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sally Thomas <[email protected]>
> To: mosaic listserve <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:22 pm
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach
>
>
> Use Richard Allington's work.  Lots of research that says children need to
>
> be reading (not doing reading stuff) AT LEAST one hour a day at school and
>
> they need to be reading books that are at their "just right" level.   His
>
> latest is on response to intervention but his overall book that summarizes
>
> research in reading is excellent.  It would be a great book to read as a
>
> staff or to hand a principal. (note this doesn't specifically support
>
> reading workshop BUT reading workshop is a structure that can allow a
>
> teacher to implement the findings of research, ie an emphasis on actually
>
> extensive reading AND reading at appropriate levels for each child.)
>
> Sally
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/28/10 6:53 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>
>>  I am trying to convince my principal that our current literacy instruction
>> is
>
>> ineffective and should be abandoned.   We currently use a basal series, and
>
>> leveled readers from the series.  Students work on stations while I teach
>
>> small groups.  There are so many problems with this concept...
>
>>
>
>> I have students who read at the Premier level up to 8th grade, yet they are
>
>> all taught from the 4th grade basal.
>
>> The stations are basically busy work, not matter what I do to differentiate
>
>> them, and everything has to have a product (which means lots of wasted copy
>
>> paper)
>
>> About 6 of my 22 students do not finish or turn in their weekly stations
>
>> There is absolutely no time for actual reading
>
>> The lowest leveled reader that came with the series is 3.5 reading level,
>> this
>
>> does not help the 5+ students I have that read below that reading level
>
>> I would like to introduce readers workshop but need some research to prove my
>
>> point.  Does anyone know where I can locate some?
>
>>
>
>> Thanks,
>
>> Rosie
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
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>>
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>>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:06:02 -0500
From: e h <[email protected]>
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Subject: [MOSAIC] Summarization
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Hi all,

I'm wondering on summarization that students in grade 2 are expected to do
when they are being assessed....Do any of use Fountas and Pinnell benchmark
or DRA?  Do these assessments ask children to summarize at the end of their
reading?

How do they do it?  What type of questions/prompts do they use?

If any of you use other assessments that you think are particularly good--
please share!

Thank you!


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:18:21 -0800
From: Sally Thomas <[email protected]>
To: mosaic listserve <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach
Message-ID: <c9199eed.337b%[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Woo Hoo!!! Found it.  It's on the Reading Rockets website article #96  think
you can download it!

http://www.readingrockets.org/article/96

Title of excellent article:  "The Six T's of Effective Literacy Instruction"
This is one of the best summaries I know based on research of very effective
teachers (as measured by recommendations of families and principals and test
scores).  I so agree witht everything here.

And the book I recommended  (What really matters... ) will provide many many
research citations....in fact leads you to a website with extensive and
complete bibliographies of the research supporting.

Allington is famous for NOT being biased in his approaches.....basing his
recommendations on research and his actual experience through a lifetime of
finding what works best with struggling readers.  He comes out on the
progressive end of the balance  (e.g cares about equity and is
constructivist in theoretical approach)  but he is not a "purist" in
thinking there is only one right way.

On 11/29/10 4:07 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
>  Sally, Would you happen to know exactly what book title has the information
> about students reading at least one hour during the school day?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rosie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sally Thomas <[email protected]>
> To: mosaic listserve <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:22 pm
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach
>
>
> Use Richard Allington's work.  Lots of research that says children need to
>
> be reading (not doing reading stuff) AT LEAST one hour a day at school and
>
> they need to be reading books that are at their "just right" level.   His
>
> latest is on response to intervention but his overall book that summarizes
>
> research in reading is excellent.  It would be a great book to read as a
>
> staff or to hand a principal. (note this doesn't specifically support
>
> reading workshop BUT reading workshop is a structure that can allow a
>
> teacher to implement the findings of research, ie an emphasis on actually
>
> extensive reading AND reading at appropriate levels for each child.)
>
> Sally
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/28/10 6:53 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>
>>  I am trying to convince my principal that our current literacy instruction
>> is
>
>> ineffective and should be abandoned.   We currently use a basal series, and
>
>> leveled readers from the series.  Students work on stations while I teach
>
>> small groups.  There are so many problems with this concept...
>
>>
>
>> I have students who read at the Premier level up to 8th grade, yet they are
>
>> all taught from the 4th grade basal.
>
>> The stations are basically busy work, not matter what I do to differentiate
>
>> them, and everything has to have a product (which means lots of wasted copy
>
>> paper)
>
>> About 6 of my 22 students do not finish or turn in their weekly stations
>
>> There is absolutely no time for actual reading
>
>> The lowest leveled reader that came with the series is 3.5 reading level,
>> this
>
>> does not help the 5+ students I have that read below that reading level
>
>> I would like to introduce readers workshop but need some research to prove my
>
>> point.  Does anyone know where I can locate some?
>
>>
>
>> Thanks,
>
>> Rosie
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:41:45 -0600
From: Terry <[email protected]>
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach
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ooo...thanks for posting this.  I will be using this article in my
Literature Review for my Research Paper for my Master's ...

This is like a little Christmas gift!  :)

Terry

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Sally Thomas <[email protected]>wrote:

> Woo Hoo!!! Found it.  It's on the Reading Rockets website article #96
>  think
> you can download it!
>
> http://www.readingrockets.org/article/96
>
> Title of excellent article:  "The Six T's of Effective Literacy
> Instruction"
> This is one of the best summaries I know based on research of very
> effective
> teachers (as measured by recommendations of families and principals and
> test
> scores).  I so agree witht everything here.
>
> And the book I recommended  (What really matters... ) will provide many
> many
> research citations....in fact leads you to a website with extensive and
> complete bibliographies of the research supporting.
>
> Allington is famous for NOT being biased in his approaches.....basing his
> recommendations on research and his actual experience through a lifetime of
> finding what works best with struggling readers.  He comes out on the
> progressive end of the balance  (e.g cares about equity and is
> constructivist in theoretical approach)  but he is not a "purist" in
> thinking there is only one right way.
>
> On 11/29/10 4:07 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >  Sally, Would you happen to know exactly what book title has the
> information
> > about students reading at least one hour during the school day?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Rosie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sally Thomas <[email protected]>
> > To: mosaic listserve <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:22 pm
> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach
> >
> >
> > Use Richard Allington's work.  Lots of research that says children need
> to
> >
> > be reading (not doing reading stuff) AT LEAST one hour a day at school
> and
> >
> > they need to be reading books that are at their "just right" level.   His
> >
> > latest is on response to intervention but his overall book that
> summarizes
> >
> > research in reading is excellent.  It would be a great book to read as a
> >
> > staff or to hand a principal. (note this doesn't specifically support
> >
> > reading workshop BUT reading workshop is a structure that can allow a
> >
> > teacher to implement the findings of research, ie an emphasis on actually
> >
> > extensive reading AND reading at appropriate levels for each child.)
> >
> > Sally
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/28/10 6:53 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >>  I am trying to convince my principal that our current literacy
> instruction
> >> is
> >
> >> ineffective and should be abandoned.   We currently use a basal series,
> and
> >
> >> leveled readers from the series.  Students work on stations while I
> teach
> >
> >> small groups.  There are so many problems with this concept...
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I have students who read at the Premier level up to 8th grade, yet they
> are
> >
> >> all taught from the 4th grade basal.
> >
> >> The stations are basically busy work, not matter what I do to
> differentiate
> >
> >> them, and everything has to have a product (which means lots of wasted
> copy
> >
> >> paper)
> >
> >> About 6 of my 22 students do not finish or turn in their weekly stations
> >
> >> There is absolutely no time for actual reading
> >
> >> The lowest leveled reader that came with the series is 3.5 reading
> level,
> >> this
> >
> >> does not help the 5+ students I have that read below that reading level
> >
> >> I would like to introduce readers workshop but need some research to
> prove my
> >
> >> point.  Does anyone know where I can locate some?
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >
> >> Rosie
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
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> >>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:47:19 -0500
From: e h <[email protected]>
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach
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This is a very interesting topic, but it appears that are a few issues
conflated here:
As far as the practice reading is concerned: there is research on each of
these topics:


   - The research seems to suggest that good readers do considerably more
   reading than the poor reader, and thereby further strengthen their skills.
   This creates Stanovich's (1986) famous Matthew's Effect.
   - However, Cunningham has an early 1990s paper that looks at DEAR and
   SSR.  The authors found that if the children do silent reading without
   getting feedback from the teacher, they don't gain much (I'm pretty sure
   that the DV was vocab, but I can check for anyone that is interested).

Stanovich's and Cunningham's papers do not contradict each other.
Stanovich's paper is correlational and simply states that these two
incidents co-occur; good reader read more.  Cunningham's study is either
experimental or causal-comparative, which attempted to manipulate a change
through increasing independent reading...they tried to move beyond "these
two even co-occur" to "increased reading produces better reading skills" and
they were unsuccessful.  For all we know, good reading skills causes a
reader to read more....

The second issue is the issue of basals.  Basals have a number of
limitations:
1.  Every child is working at the same level
2.  Basals are not consistent in the amount of phonics based instruction and
whole language instruction they use.  Therefore, it is difficult to
generalize and make a "one size fits all" rule for all Basals.
3.  You also need to consider the number of novel words vs. repeated words
in Basals.

But in general, Basals do not yield the best results in teaching reading.
Menon and Hiebert (2005) is a good example.  Also, in Chapter 11 of
Beginning to Read: Thinking and Learning about Print, Adams (1990) discusses
the fallacy of Basals.

Best!



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> In our district it appears that adopting a basal (K-5) series has
> negatively impacted reading achievement in grades K-5.
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>  I am trying to convince my principal that our current literacy instruction
> is ineffective and should be abandoned.   We currently use a basal series,
> and leveled readers from the series.  Students work on stations while I
> teach small groups.  There are so many problems with this concept...
>
> I have students who read at the Premier level up to 8th grade, yet they are
> all taught from the 4th grade basal.
> The stations are basically busy work, not matter what I do to differentiate
> them, and everything has to have a product (which means lots of wasted copy
> paper)
> About 6 of my 22 students do not finish or turn in their weekly stations
> There is absolutely no time for actual reading
> The lowest leveled reader that came with the series is 3.5 reading level,
> this does not help the 5+ students I have that read below that reading level
> I would like to introduce readers workshop but need some research to prove
> my point.  Does anyone know where I can locate some?
>
> Thanks,
> Rosie
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:10:54 -0500
From: Mena <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach
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What is the name of this book Sally?
Allington's book ..."overall book that summarizes research in reading is 
excellent"




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College of Education
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From: Beverlee Paul <[email protected]>
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
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Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach


Try Elaine Garan, both books and articles. Hers is helpful because she uses

the National Reading Panel's own research to address issues.  If you need

further info on her, post again.

On Nov 28, 2010 9:05 AM, "Sally Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote:

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