I absolutely agree with both of you and Marion. That is the big flaw of the notion of standards, especially this latest iteration of standards. It puts our eyes on the standards and not the children we teach. Of course, as professionals, we should have a good feel for where development takes children over time, but specifying it in particulars and also be particular ages/grade levels can be hugely detrimental to the children we teach. And as Elisa says, it seems always to be followed by testing which is its own huge problem. I'm always worried when teachers don't trust their own knowledge and professionalism as well. Sally
PS I am curious about the line on sender - from mosaic-bounces. I just got two messages bounced back to me. Not entirely clear why this is happening. Were these messages bounceed somehow??? On 5/22/11 8:52 AM, "Waingort Jimenez, Elisa" <[email protected]> wrote: > I couldn't agree with you and Marion Brady more. The Common Core forgets > (deliberately and conveniently?) that we are dealing with individual children > and not the commodity they are being made out to be. Also, make no mistake > about it, the Common Core means more testing. We need to fight it. > Elisa > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "John L. Perry" <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 11:40:31 > To: 'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email > Group'<[email protected]> > Reply-To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Common Core > > Seems to me that more specific = worse, not better. > > The more specific standards are, the further away you get from overarching > concepts that tie everything together and help students make sense of the > world around them, and the closer you get to prescribing specific facts to > be taught to the detriment of an overall ability to identify > patterns/structures/relationships/systems that put all the facts into a > comprehensible bigger picture. This is already the biggest flaw in our > education system, so more "specific" standards will only serve to aggravate > the problem. It's the wrong way to go in a world where exponential change > calls for citizens who can recognize the bigger picture and harness that > change for the greater good. > > I give full credit for these ideas to my much wiser friend Marion Brady. ( > http://www.marionbrady.com/ ) > > Warmest Regards, > John Perry > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of kaui norton > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 8:03 PM > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Common Core > > Aloha from Maui, Hawai'i! Our state is implementing Common Core for k-2 > this coming year and 3-5 to follow in about two years, I think. > BTW...what do you all think about Common Core? Personally, I like it. It > is more specific than what we, presently, have. > > --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Laura Rieben <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Laura Rieben <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Common Core > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 12:18 PM > > In my county in Maryland, only Kindergarten will do it next year, then 1 and > 2nd, then 3rd on up. > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:55 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> South Dakota will pilot a roll out plan this summer. I like the Wyoming >> plan. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ronald Borchert [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:42 AM >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: [MOSAIC] Common Core >> >> I am just curious to see what other schools/districts are doing about the >> Common Core Standards. My state (Wyoming) has adopted the Common Core. > In >> my district, kindergarten through second grade will teach from the common >> core in language arts and math beginning next school year. Three through >> sixth grade will follow. >> >> Thank you! >> Barb >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. 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