Well said--I don't think anyone has found the key for those individuals who just can't seem to decode the words. I had a brilliant third grader this year who read on a barely beginning first grade level--he had all the comprehension skills if someone else could do the decoding for him.
Laura
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When a middle schooled or high school student is reading on an elementary level, It's easy to assume that somebody below didn't do it "right" . But as an elementary teacher, I just need to say that we bust our butts on those students who are below grade level. We meet with them daily in small group and and are always hovering by their desks to help them with added support. We provide them with as much intensive support as available from reading teachers,we work with parents, set up before and after school buddy pals, and nightly send home books at their level for them to practice and now with RITA. probably spend triple the amount of time planning lessons and assessing these students as we do our grade level or advanced student.

We take so much abuse from the "political public" about how all we need is good teaching and all will be right with the students. I have to caution you not to buy into this. Students who struggle learning to read have many and varied causes, and we have yet to find the cause or "cure" for all of them. Please, don't play the bashing game and blame the other guy. Chances are, your own success with these kiddos will be as limited.

Kathy












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Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:15 pm
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Hi Jan
I am glad you ask that question about the hypothetical 8th grader who currently read on a 4th grade level what can we do. Well just to inform you I currently teach intensive reading for middle school students 6-8th grade and many of them do read on an elementary grade level. Our school has a block schedule in which students goes to three classes on one day and three different classes on the next (alternating class), which also include extra-curricular activities. The students who have my class, have there required classes, such as Language Arts,
Math, etc..., but because they have Intensive Reading they do not get
extra-curricular activities instead they see me every day of the week not only on alternate days. By the way our school is an “A” school again this year, thank God. I believe that if schools would take the initiative and make sure that a child receive all the help necessary for the child to be able to read on grade level before they are move on to the next grade or take drastic action to make sure that the child catch up to their reading grade level then we will have less student in the 8th grade reading on a 4th grade level. It is not easy, trust me I have the real deal, the 8th graders who do read on a very low level but was just pass on through the system; but, it is possible if the school work
as a team.

Denise DO. Saddler

I'd love to hear from you all about what intervention you think an 8th
grader who reads at the 4th grade level needs.  Remember that this
student will be starting high school soon.  (This is a hypothetical
student, but I have had students like this in the past.)
Jan


Quoting Denise Diana Saddler <[email protected]>:
> I agree with the fact that if a child is unable to read by the 3rd > grade
then
> the child should be taking out of extra curricular activities for one > year
in
> order to catch up on the reading instruction necessary for the child to > be
> successful. Many statistics has proven that if the child can read on
> grade level
> then he or she have a higher chances of passing test in other areas;
> examples,
> math and science.  Other area that is affected when a child cannot
> read is the
> child's behavior when he or she cannot complete class work or homework
> assignments, also the child's self confidence. Yes, a child should be > given
> extra reading instruction for a minimum of one year in order to
> decrease all the
> other negative possibilities that can take place if the child is just > moved
> through the system.
>
> Denise Saddler
>
> _______________________________________________


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