it depends on what you want to do. I was interested in the word 
alignment in particular. not necessarily for running MT with moses.

for SMT I usually just use the default grow-diag-final-and which 
probably gives the best input anyway. this is, I guess, because it's 
better on recall. AER seems to strongly prefer precision.

jorg


On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:46:36 +0000
  Miles Osborne <[email protected]> wrote:
> one thing to remember is that the link between AER and BLEU is not
> obvious;  in my view at least AER-like scores should be treated with
> skepticism and the real merit of an alignment approach should be the
> corresponding translation performance (BLEU etc).
> 
> can you provide associated BLEU scores for those AER numbers?
> 
> Miles
> 
> 2009/3/4 J.Tiedemann <[email protected]>:
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> I'm just wondering if Och's "refined" heuristics is also implemented
>> in Moses. The "grow-diag" is not exactly the same as far as I
>> understand.
>>
>> The reason why I'm asking is because I found out that in all of my
>> experiments with europarl data the "intersection" always produces 
>> the
>> best results in terms of AER (for example using the wpt03 data)
>> whereas I see better performances reported for refined compared with
>> intersection in various papers (also for the wpt03 data). However, I
>> cannot believe that the grow-heuristics would perform so much worse
>> than the original "refined" approach.
>>
>> My AER scores with standard GIZA settings and moses heuristics  for
>> wpt03 data are the following:
>>
>> moses.intersect             AER = 0.0613
>> moses.grow-diag             AER = 0.0843
>> moses.grow-diag-final-and   AER = 0.0926
>> moses.grow-diag-final       AER = 0.1312
>> moses.srctotgt              AER = 0.1039
>> moses.tgttosrc              AER = 0.1162
>> moses.union                 AER = 0.1444
>>
>> does this sound reasonable?
>>
>>
>> Jorg
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